"An interesting thread might be " do the 'healers' get healed? "
Some of 'em DO, and some of 'em Don't.
"Healers" are no more likely to be "healed" than anybody else, and the simple FACT is that MOST FOLKS, "Healers" or otherwise, who are prayed for to be healed in churches that believe in such things - aren't.
And a few are.
What are peoples' thoughts on something I have gleaned from my walk concerning a lot of peoples' belief that God cannot be glorified in sickness? Not the old chestnut of if you are sick it is " your fault" or you must have a "lack of Faith" but the warning I sometimes hear of people being discouraged from thinking God will use sickness for his Glory and so they are not to refuse prayer for healing or use the terms " if it be your will". So, to reiterate : what does it mean " God cannot be glorified in sickness"?
"So, to reiterate : what does it mean " God cannot be glorified in sickness"?
It actually means NOTHING except to certain WoF groups who are FORCED by their paradigm to REJECT forcibly any possibility that God might be involved in a person being sick, or would use sickness or handicap in any positive redemptive way. Paul used HIS sickness in Galatia, which apparently prevented him for travelling, to start a church. Pretty good way to spend recoup time.
God, I think, planted Joni Eareckson Tada right in the middle of His Charismatic renewal just to prove that HE can be glorified as easily by his power in the life of a hopeless cripple, as He Is by an overachieving athlete. Maybe moreso.
In my generation it was Helen Keller that was His glory in her infirmity.
What do you make of it when a person has had a sickness for many years and has been struggling with pain - and is charismatic and asks continually for God's healing and it doesn't come?
I'm sort of in this situation as a family member of mine has been suffering for many years - and as a Charismatic Christian I have asked for God's miraculous healing but the answer seems to always be "no."
In fact the condition has only gotten worse with time. I must say it has gotten frustrating - though I have never stopped asking the Lord for his healing...
I will assume that by avoiding the question 'do you ever get sick?' that you do indeed get sick. So please explain your statement.Do you actually read the Bible sometimes?
Whom do you suppose struck these down?Jesus had a good go at those who attributed God's work to the devil. He said that they were close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
The trouble is these days is that people who say that sickness is God's will attribute the devil's work to God. This is almost just as bad.
Neither way, God is not glorified by a person being sick. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil, so when a sickness is healed, the devil's work in that person is destroyed and so God is glorified.
For those who operate within the Manifestation of healings or within the Office of healings I would be more inclined to say that there POWER comes from the Holy Spirit who resides within them. As for the written Word this does not contain any inherent power other than it being the medium in which the Father has conveyed his general will and purposes to mankind.Exactly - the "POWER" is in the WORD - not the minister. That's an important distinction - often ignored/missed.[/size]
For those who operate within the Manifestation of healings or within the Office of healings I would be more inclined to say that there POWER comes from the Holy Spirit who resides within them. As for the written Word this does not contain any inherent power other than it being the medium in which the Father has conveyed his general will and purposes to mankind.
For the rest of us who do not operate in this manner, when we pray to the Father for someone (or our own) healing then our faith must be first grounded in our knowledge of the written Word but but the power is still granted from the Spirit/Father; even here we cannot be assured of someones healing if their infirmity is the result of unrepentant sin as with 1 Co 11.
Seems to me that when healing does not come, it is the unbelief of the one praying. When the disciples could not heal the epileptic, they asked Jesus why. He told them straight.
Awesome, and thank you for the info! I think I'm in the right place now.Yep. Very true. Actually, the belief that it is a lack of faith in the sick person is a demonic lie to upset the healing ministry and make it ineffective; as well as causing unnecessary torment, doubt, and distress in the sick person.
"Faith keeps asking, praying, ministering until it wins, no matter how long it takes."
Not so!!
Faith KNOWS that the Answer is THERE, and no longer has to "ASK".
WHY would you ASK when you already HAVE "the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, and the EVIDENCE of things not seen". It WOULD make perfect sense to continue to THANK GOD for His provision. But there's NO sense to "keep asking" for what you already have.
It's HOPE that "keeps asking, praying, ministering until it wins, no matter how long it takes."
Praying in HOPE isn't a BAD thing, and MOST PRAYERS ARE "Prayers of Hope" - because we DON'T KNOW what God's specific will is in the situation. Our Faith is in the love and character of God. And when you DON'T KNOW what the answer is, then pray with importunity.
Back in the day, we called it "Praying through" - and when faith came, then you KNEW the provision was on the way.
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