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When God is silent

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I am so sorry - once again - if I have started another topic in the wrong place. Please PM me and tell me if this subject is moved. I just wasn't sure where else to put it.

My question is....

How are we supposed to react/what are we supposed to think or feel when God doesn't answer our prayers? Please don't give me the usual simplistic answers about Him always answering in His timing, or that He always answers yes, no or maybe, or that I am not asking with faith, etc... I'm seriously wondering if God is mad at me, and wants nothing to do with me. I have been praying for years about certain things in my life, and NOTHING is changing and there are NO answers coming my way. (I won't go into details right now, because I'm just looking for a general reason why God is silent.) I'm very depressed and have suicidal thoughts at times because it feels like absolutely NOTHING good ever comes my way. I keep dealing with the same old **** over and over, and I've asked God for help and it just seems like He doesn't want to have anything to do with me.
 

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I think the proper answer there would be to "wait on God", but uhh.. honestly? It's not the most realistic thing I've ever heard. I mean, if it's only a short amount of time then *boom!* u've got ur answer to prayer, well that's cool, but it doesn't always happen with that style of awesomeness.

There are definetly times when it seems that God is silent or just that He isn't explaining to me what He's doing. But I always come back to lyrics I heard from the Supertones [and one of their greatest songs called "Wilderness"], the situtation of the song is he's fighting all these questions and the lyrics at the end of the song come to a point where he says, "I can't contend with You. Your ways are so much higher, as we pass through the fire that Christ endured before us, when You were in the wilderness"

God really is a loving God, and He isn't trying to be cruel. But undoubtablely, there is a reason God sees is fit to have you be in the circumstances you're in now, even if it doesn't make any sense I'm sure there is a purpose to it. It can be frustrating not understanding what God's doing when we can't see it. If you're at the point where the struggle is more like a strain, just talk to God about it. I mean, even if you have to yell and agree & fight about it... just get it out, and ask God to provide for you what you need to make it through the rough times, and God will work something out for you.
In the meantime, check out Lamentations 3, especially 3:19-24. That's my favorite verse, ever. ...maybe not the most cheery verse ever, but that's half to reason I like it so much.

Hope your days get better. Peace be with you,
 
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No matter what God may do to me, yet I will still trust him . . . .

May I make a recommendation?

Read the book of Job . . but read it this way . .

Read the first part until his "friends" show up . . then read ONLY what Job says, not what his 3 'friends" say . . then when the 4th friend shows up read what he says (the other 3 fall silent, and read what God says along with what Job says, and then to the end of the book . . .

See what God speaks to you through this . . .


Peace in Him!
 
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Sometimes God not answering our prayers is his answer or we need to wait longer for him to set things up for the answer. Keep praying and be receptive for God to answer you in unexpected ways. Often times God answers our prayers in ways we don't expect because he knows things we don't. If you want to be more specific about your situation some of us might offer some practical advice. If you've been praying for years for something in your life to change you might want to look at the possibility of changing it yourself. God often lets us do things we are capable of.
 
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To list the details is just a little hard, because individually these things will probably seem trivial and petty. It's difficult to give specific details, because the nature of the stuff I've prayed about is such that it is like little pebbles that are fired at me from a cannon, and they get imbedded in my spirit and accumulate within me, eating away at me. By themselves, the individual pebbles aren't enough to cause the pain. But over the years, they've been constantly hurled at me and I have no way of dodging them or digging them out of my soul.


Past experience tells me you will all think I'm being petty and more than likely this thread will be ignored by a lot of people. Yet, I have nowhere else to turn for help and I'm totally lost about what else to do.

Details, hmmm? Well, in a nutshell...

My entire life, I've never felt an ounce of support from my dad. I'm the younger of two sons - and my brother was always the one that was motivated to work, and got involved in sports and rock music. He was the first born, the pride and joy of my dad, the one who seemed to be interested in the stuff my dad was interested in, the typical "macho" one who did the manly things. Me....I was never interested in sports. I was always shy and reserved and timid. I was always interested in sugary pop music like the Carpenters. I was interested in art. I sat down to pee when I had to go to the bathroom (and still do). I played with the girls in the neighborhood instead of the boys. I always felt awkward around other guys because I didn't talk the way they did or act the way they did. Generally, my dad was always distant when I was growing up, and never seemed interested in the stuff I was interested, but was always interested in the type of stuff my brother was interested in. Yet he and my brother tended to make fun of me, and embarrass me because of the stuff I liked. Into adulthood now, he doesn't seem to have a positive, supportive comment for me. He always tends to make cutting, hurtful remarks that cut right to the core of my personality and who I am. My grandmother was the same way. (She's dead now, but for years before she died she used to always nitpick me apart and make comments about how I was weird, or that I did weird things, or liked weird things.) I have come to believe that I'm a worthless human being as a result of the constant put-downs and cutting remarks over the years. I've told them that what they said hurt my feelings, but they didn't care. I've tried to open up to my dad to talk to him about things, and he doesn't like to talk about stuff. I can't do anything or say anything that pleases him. He just seems to think it's okay to put others down, but doesn't think there is anything wrong with him. He tends to believe his way of doing stuff is the only right way. The hard part about all this is that I still have to live with him, as old as I am. People might think that is pathetic, but there are situations I've been through in my life, and problems I have that make it this way.

Those problems involve my personality, and some mental/emotional disorders. I suffered from separation anxiety as a child and was abused as a little boy by one of my babysitters. It has left an emotional scar on me, and it seems that as I get older, the pain that resulted is affecting me more and more. When I was about 7 years old, I developed Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that has lasted up to this day. It has affected me in varying degrees over the years, from very serious to mild. The OCD has also caused me to have problems with uncontrollable thoughts that I don't want. I can't seem to control my emotions, or stop wanting things that I want. I can't be a responsible person because I am not good at anything. I can't go to school to learn something because I can't afford it, and can't get a loan because I have a bad credit rating. I am also attracted to men, and have been since I was about 13. I have tried to change that, but I can't. I'm fat and ugly so no one is interested in me in a romantic way, not to mention it wouldn't matter anyway because I'm too weird. I get angry at God for things that seem stupid - like wanting him to make it snow, and then getting upset at Him and yelling and being disrespectful to Him when it doesn't. I am confused about Christianity and what I should believe because there are so many different interpretations out there, and everyone seems to think their's is the correct one.

The list could go on, but like I said it is all stuff that seems petty, but has accumulated and I have prayed for God to help me, and to make me a better person, and to make me the person He wants me to be, and to make me stop being attracted to men, and to stop having all these bad thoughts, and for the OCD to go away, and for my dad to stop making his hurtful remarks all the time, and for him to let me get a lot of snow, and to just generally straighten out my whacked-out life.

And nothing has changed. And I don't know what to do to change myself because I don't know how. People say to give stuff over to the Lord, but I don't know what that means, or how to "do it". I've gotten so depressed, and have felt so worthless that I have tried to hurt myself. Nothing changes. So I wonder if even God doesn't want to have anything to do with me, and He is the only being that exists that I thought I could turn to for help. And I feel like He's mad at me for saying all that stuff. So I don't know what to do anymore. Nothing changes.
 
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Regardless of anything you've said or done, God loves you more than anything else in this world. You are one of His children, and an heir to His kingdom. It doesn't matter what you are on the outside, it matters what you are on the inside. The things that you've done and the things you have said make you no less of a child of God than me or anyone else. For we have all sinned and fall short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23). ALL of us. Even our best deeds are but filthy rags in His sight. And yet, God loves us with a perfect love and wants nothing more than to bring us closer to Him. First and foremost you need to realize that you have immense worth, regardless of anything that you have heard otherwise. Second...take a look at yourself and see if there is anything in your life that would separate you from God. We can't expect the full blessings of God if we refuse to turn away from those things that drive him away. Our flesh hurries to do evil and those evil thoughts, deeds and desires are what slowly but surely separate us from God. The good news is that God never leaves us and will always forgive us our sins if we are truly sorry for them and are willing to turn around and make a change.

I pray that you will find the answers that you are looking for. God bless.
 
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First of all, God is not mad at you. He loves you soooooo much! You turn your problems over to Him by telling Him. Cry out to God and tell Him your heart. Repent of the sins you have done and continue to ask for His strength.

John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

Also, christianity isn't just a religion, it's a relationship. You should also try to fill your mind with the Word. You should definantly ask for deliverance from being attracted to the same gender. But, the Lord will only help you with your problems if you truly want to change and be commited to Him. If you don't, then no change will occur. Also, have you recieved God's love for you? This is something that can make a big difference. You may be wondering how. Well, it's simple, just recieve it. It's so simple that people have loooked beyond it and made it complex. I hope I helped you.
 
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Bro... Your story is so moving... the people above me have posted so many AWESOME things... I hope you reread them ... and check out that Lamentation vs. that swingandscream gave you ...
I lived in a family where my dad was in the Marine Corps, so he was hardly ever home, but I have like 4 sisters and a mom... So I hung out with them.. I don't think this is weird man... I have alot of girls who are friends... it's not 'weird'... I think guys are good looking, does this mean I am gay or what not? I do not think so (at least I hope not =) ... its when those thoughts bring about lusting thoughts is when one must be careful whether same sex or not... I truely sorry about the abuse and the emotinal trama you went through as a child... you made me kry bro =/... haha (that doesn't happen alot unless you put on the Lion King)... but I will pray for you man... what is your name if I may ask? I would encourage you to do what everyone else said above me? Have you realized that you are a sinner and that there is nothing you can do to get to your father in heaven except accepting the fact that Christ came down to die for us... that's it... Jesus came down on this Earth not because he Had to, but because he WANTED to... he loves you and I that much man... he had joy before he went up on the cross... he prayed for us in the garden (John)... it says in Psalms/Revelations that he will wipe all of your tears away bro... God knew us before the creation of the world... he has a special plan for ya... When you look around and kids are dying of starvation and young ladies are being sold into prostitution... you KNOW that there is something greater in this life... we do not live only to die.. there is some hope in this world...and that Hope is Jesus... your job as a Christian.. is to give glory to the one TRUE GOD... that should be your goal... whether sharing the gospel to a stranger or dancing up and down in the street because you just love him that much... Again I hope and pray that things go well... shoot me a PM if you want bro... I really feel for ya man... Take kare and GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Christ,
Frank
 
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Well, thank you everyone. I don't know what to say right now. Somehow, I'm feeling a little better today. I noticed it when I got up this morning. I go through these cycles where things seem more intense than at other times. At the core, I still basically feel the same way - all the things I get depressed over are still there. But the edge isn't as sharp right now as it can be at times.

I might tend to believe differently than the majority of Christians, or how the church teaches, but I assure you I do accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I just see Him differently than most believers do. I see the church differently. Quite honestly, I'm surprised I'm at this website. I try to avoid places like this because of how confusing they have been for me. But there are times when I simply wonder if there will be someone new out there that I happen to bump into, who will demonstrate a certain unique quality that I can relate to. The sad reality of that is that people such as that are generally located in some other part of the world or country, and I am more physically oriented, and tend to not thrive in these online communities where I can't see someone or hear them, or walk next to them while I'm talking. I think that is part of the problem in my relationship with the Lord - I want Jesus to physically be here with me, sitting next to me as I talk, or walking with me telling me about all the wonders of the universe and Heaven. I want Him here to physically hold me, and I just can't deal with one-sided conversations where I feel like I'm just babbling and wondering if God is really interested in hearing what I have to say. Because He isn't right there to respond to me when I talk to Him. In a real sense, I still feel like I'm separated from God. I don't know - sometimes I just don't understand Christianity at all. It seems there are so many subtle aspects of it that I just don't get. I don't feel the way other Christians seem to feel. They seem to live their faith. They seem to have this life inside them that they can't control, and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I have a lot of trouble dealing with stuff like this, and so many times I feel like I'm forcing myself to believe in God when it should come naturally.

Anyway, I appreciate the prayers.

Oh, BTW - my name is Rob.
 
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christians are good at hiding their problems. they can pretend to be living their faith..but they're not. which would be me a while back. no one is perfect! we all have our faults and hidden secrets. i've been a Christian for about 5 years and i don't understand some things. but know that there are christians who strive to live like Christ day after day after day.
you have to put some effort into your relationship with Christ. you can't just let God do everything, what kind of friendship would that be? the communication's bound to be static. sometimes sin gets in the way of your relationship with God. sometimes its him testing you to see if you'll still love him, worship him, and trust him even though you don't feel him near. know he's always there. i would tell you just give it all to God...but who are we kidding? that's not goin to help you out. people used to say that to me all the freakin time...sure, its a nice thought to just be able to swing over all your questions and problems...and have no more burdens. whatever! it takes time. by reading what you've written i can tell you really want a relationship with God...a better one. but you're upset because God won't answer your requests. oooh man...does that sound like me. it took God 2 years to answer one of my requests. sure i thought he would never answer...drove me crazy. i finally gave up asking and just forgot about it thinking there was no hope. don't lose hope! thats one of the worst things you can do at this moment. try to think of all the great things in life...just try, don't say there's nothing good. maybe you can only think of a few...but hang on those blessings. praise God even though you don't understand. which is pretty hard, but go for it. whats the worst that could happen? keep your faith and get a good night sleep...everything's goin to be OKAY! ever try writing out all those feelings.
if you ever have any questions feel free to throw them out here.
i'm glad you're feeling better and i'll be praying for you. :)
 
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If you always look at Christianity through Christians it's always going be a bit confusing and blurry, because we're just the imperfect examples of the real thing. Try to keep focused on Christ. No doubt, God's greatness is hard to understand sometimes, but that's ok because after a little while you begin to realize you don't have to understand everything about Him [especially since it's impossible to do on this side of heaven anyways].

I think just about every Christian [if not every one] has that feeling at some time where they wished they could have Christ there in the flesh, just to hang out and talk with. Even though we've missed that by a "few" years, it's cool know that in the meantime we've got the Holy Spirit to hang out with.
And as far as one-sided conversations with God goes, sometimes it's good just to get it all out. Just make sure you also have time to listen to God and His "still small voice". Sometimes He doesn't come with answers, but He always comes with love.

Oh and one last thing, never listen to devil when he tries to tell you that your so far different or removed from everyone else that you're alone. That's a lie. One cool about being a Christian is you're connected with all the other believers too. So at the very least you've got someone else to pray for you.

Hope your days keep getting better. Enjoy,
 
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Hi Rob,

It can get pretty confusing this Christianity thing can't it! :) Sometimes when I hear people ask what's the will of God on this or that matter and I see all the different answers that are given I think to myself "I'm never gonna get this walk right Lord, I don't have a clue what I'm doing" :scratch:
But then I just sit down with Him and it's like He smiles at me and I remember all His promises of love and hope and mercy. I realise "I know this heart. This is the heart that has never left me or forsaken me. This is the heart that has loved me in spite of all my wretchedness. This is the heart that has embraced me and upheld me through all the ups and the downs, the high and lows." I find myself smiling back and thanking Him that I don't need to understand Him or His ways, I only need recognise this heart and follow Him in faith.
I use to pray all the time God would change this and that about me. Nowadays I'm just thankful He loves me ..just as I am!
"His mercies are new every morning" ... and each day I wake up and thank Him because today I need new mercies The miracle is each day I change. Not big changes, sometimes it takes awhile for me to see the changes, but I'm not the person I was and I didn't really do anything to make changes except trust Him to keep His Word.
When you wake up tomorrow Rob thank Him. Thank Him that you're wretched, thank Him for the taunts, thank Him for the lonliness then thank Him that His mercies are new and His love is steadfast and take your rest in the Heart of Jesus, trust Him and follow where His Spirit leads.
Your friend Deborah
 
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dear heart. remember that God isn't "just" your God, but also your Father and Teacher. He may teach you trust and patience by doing this.

sometimes when we pray we pray for the wrong things, but He still gives us the right things.

if we pray for a burden to be lifted off our shoulders and just vanish, He doesn't always do that. sometimes the answer is "I won't do that, but I will give you a stronger back to carry that burden, and I'll walk together with you, all the way."
 
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