What's with all the 'racist uncles'?

[OldWiseGuy]

someone's been listening to jared taylor lectures...

Never heard of him...until now.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

Never heard of him...until now.

of course...

 

[expos4ever]

But isn't it a fact? Don't you believe in genetically influenced behavior?

What?!?! I don’t suppose you have any actual evidence to support this exceedingly dubious implication.

And if you tell me to “find it myself”, I will descend on you with a righteous fury that will make your “retired alpha male” head spin.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

of course...

Do I detect skepticism, or are you calling me a liar?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What?!?! I don’t suppose you have any actual evidence to support this exceedingly dubious implication.

And if you tell me to “find it myself”, I will descend on you with a righteous fury that will make your “retired alpha male” head spin.

What 'implication' do you suspect?

 

[Willie T]

What?!?! I don’t suppose you have any actual evidence to support this exceedingly dubious implication.

And if you tell me to “find it myself”, I will descend on you with a righteous fury that will make your “retired alpha male” head spin.

That is pretty explicitly discriminatory of either of you... labeling a group, "retired alpha male."

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That is pretty explicitly discriminatory of either of you... labeling a group, "retired alpha male."

Sorry. I might have phrased it differently such as, the black community is deeply troubled. Better?

Also the statement was made without a greater context. If seen as such then it is an assumption by the reader.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

This is interesting, to say the least.

The Difference Between Africans and African Americans - Our Legaci

1. 
   Itunu Ogunlade says:
   September 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm
   "Hello . I’m African and I have studied the African American race for a long time. the truth be told, our cultures, values and behavior are completely different. It would be absurd for any one who was born in Africa, has its descendants from pure African blood to identify with African Americans. African Americans were taken into slavery a long time ago, lived in America and over the years have changed their culture.. Nothing wrong with the change, children of African immigrants cannot totally fit with the African American culture. My country is not a very organized, decent, or good country, but since we were not under slavery; our attitudes to racism is different. Racism especially when you think a person judges you for your skin colour alone can hurt like a knife piercing your soul. Generally, I discovered that Africans do better with “racism” than African Americans. Our colonial masters were not brutal, though a thorough understanding of African culture would show that our way of life is mainly determined by our tribes.. that is how we behave… I find the African Americans too different from me.. I pretty much do not understand the way they speak in terms of how the English language is spoken by them. My apologies, I tend to understand the white Americans perfectly.. I do not know why people living in the same country with no tribal differences would speak a different form of English language. I have never seen the white man as an oppressor, I might be wrong, I stand to be corrected, I went to a secondary school with people of different nationalities, and every culture was celebrated( the good part). In my tribe, we appreciate the white man for his knowledge of being able to change his environment to suit him through the knowledge of science.. Its sad that my country has not been able to make herself decent. One thing I have discovered is that men would always oppress each other, but the oppressed need to raise his or head up, rise through the oppression and prove their worth; trust me, black people were not hated so much as for now.. the Japanese were one of the most hated people, the Jewish people were also one of the most hated people.. After receiving some amount of freedom, the onus lies on the oppressed to prove himself and engage in decent and a respectful way. Also to give people a good reason to respect them… Then the idea of being sub humans would not be discussed… it hurts me to see African immigrants totally imitate the African American culture, I respect them as much as I respect any other group but we certainly look at things separately and we definitely don’t speak alike.. I would speak about Africans, not African Americans… unfortunately we are laid back, and are certainly not the most hardworking race on earth.. nonetheless, there are tribes that value hard work, as much as I’m hurt, pained and ashamed to say this, we are generally lazy; on hyper sexuality, not Africans really. Also we tend to be selfish and this hurts me a lot.. that’s why corruption is a major problem in Africa. We say we love each other, yet we embezzle s public funds and say we love our people ( what an irony). we celebrates criminals… another thing is that we lack organizational skills. Many times I try to organize something and put things into place, and I discovered that we really lack that.. I hope one day Africans would sit to reflect and stop this madness.. I come from a tribe that encourages hard work, despises laziness, and have mutual respect for each other, very open to civilization and still keeps the good part of our culture. we had a chance to show the world that we might be good.. but we blew it.. and I discover that we thrive in mediocrity.. as I sit to write this, it hurts me that it is like that.. the truth must be told all the time.. if we don’t say the truth, we might not have a chance to progress.. that’s why self evaluation needs to be done.. so that we are in track.. there are many decent Africans, just that there a lot of bad ones too( tears in my eyes). I have discovered that in the need to move on and make our society good. hard truths must be told, we are a corrupt continent at least my country.. our leaders steal and you know why it would not be a problem, because the common man wants to enter power to be corrupt.. the corruption is unspeakable.. we lack ability to project and that’s is why my country is in economic recession… African Americans…. hmm, I think its high time you took up responsibility.. there is no free money anywhere… I would touch a few things that I wonder about African Americans.. does poverty push people into crime as you say? my observation in Africa disputes that; there are many poor people who do not commit crime, many its a matter of what we want to do.. as I know most African Americans can feed, why are they so violent? why is that a minority make up a huge percentage of crime perpetrators? Why is the culture like violence, not speaking in the right way, sagging pants, music associated with violence celebrated, condoned or excused or being blamed on racial inequality?. still, I know there are decent African Americans.. Unfortunately, the blame on their white counterparts is not helping the situation. God bless our respectful countries. love."
   
   

 

[expos4ever]

That is pretty explicitly discriminatory of either of you... labeling a group, "retired alpha male."

Please read his avatar - it is HIS choice to be referred to as "retired alpha male".

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Please read his avatar - it is HIS choice to be referred to as "retired alpha male".

I refer to myself that way, I don't expect others to. If I said "World's Greatest Person" would you refer to me as that?

 

[expos4ever]

I refer to myself that way, I don't expect others to. If I said "World's Greatest Person" would you refer to me as that?

Why not?

 

[Ana the Ist]

This is not really ironic, since "having a ____ friend" is not some sort of antidote or bullet-proof defense to "anti-_____-ism". This is why there is much rolling of eyes when it is trotted out as such a defense.

I tend to see the whole "racist uncle" thing as just virtue signaling. Undoubtedly, some of those conversations are real...but I doubt they all are.

As for the studies about racism...it's hard to be concerned about a study that I can't read or only examines the attitudes of whites.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Racism is not just being actively harmful against minorities and yes, the statement you've just made about the black community (including previous statements where you have said you discriminate against them) is racist.

So we're back to the original definition of racism where words count and anyone can be racist?

That was quick.

 

[TLK Valentine]

But isn't 'racism' being actively harmful against minorities, not merely attitudes and expressions?

Not really. One can have the attitude without ever acting on it.

And aren't most racist remarks really anger and not hatred?

Anger, fear, ignorance... it can come from many sources.

I'm not racist but I think the black community is pretty screwed up.

What do you think screwed up the community?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What do you think screwed up the community?

We, and themselves, not holding them to higher standards, especially in education.

 

[iluvatar5150]

We, and themselves, not holding them to higher standards, especially in education.

Do you include banning them from schools to be part of "not holding them to higher standards"?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Do you include banning them from schools to be part of "not holding them to higher standards"?

A few do have 'thing' with their hair and other 'dress' that can get them banned. Blacks are famous for mocking the traditions of white culture as well, so that must be considered. But that's up to individual school districts.

 

[SummerMadness]

While the article's point about racism in families outside the racist uncle, it's pretty clear some racist uncles are very real.

 

[TLK Valentine]

We, and themselves, not holding them to higher standards, especially in education.

Now there's an interesting thought... how then do we raise the standards of education?

 

[TLK Valentine]

While the article's point about racism in families outside the racist uncle, it's pretty clear some racist uncles are very real.

As the saying goes, most families have at least one embarrassment; if you don't know who it is, it's probably you.