And you decide whats important for us? We think it is an important point of our culture, thats why we defend it since decades. On the other side we find many aspects of islam disgusting and do not accept it in our country but we do not send out cars into muslim lands ramming local female genital mutilators...
Well this is actually another example of a cultural tradition that I oppose. FGM has nothing to do with the religion of Islam, and yet some Muslims do practice it. I oppose FGM, it is to be an abhorrent practice that serves no purpose.
And no, I dont (or at least shouldnt) decide what is important to Japan. And yet your only defense of the cultural significance has so far been Just Because.
Norway does not face half the attacks that we face. thats clear racism.
I am unaware of the relative pressures put on Japan and Norway with regards to whale hunting. Do you have any proof that Japan is being targeted more than Norway?
Unless youre talking about those Sea Shepherd idiots. Those guys can screw off as far as Im concerned.
No, I'm just not letting you get away with moving the goalposts. That's a different story.
A nice little distinction you've made there: It's TOTALLY different because unlike those savage japanese, good muslims only use worthless animals, not cute politically correct animals.
The end result is the same: Animals die, for the sake of "tradition".
I wish people would stop using phrases they dont understand...
Moving the goalposts, also known as raising the bar, is an informal
logically fallacious argument in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. In other words, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.
[2] The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the end result is changed too. It counts for less
The evidence I asked for was cultural significance beyond mere tradition. This has been my criterion for the ENTIRE conversation.
Note I never called the Japanese savage for their practices.
Note that I described why Qurban is important in the Islamic faith. It is not because of just tradition that Qurban is an important practice.
Note that the reason for pointing out the use of domesticated animals is because these animals ALREADY are slaughtered, that there are not international laws forbidding their slaughter, that this food is ACTUALLY in demand for feeding people (unlike whale meat which AkiraYamato has already admitted is not popular amongst the Japanese).
Now, I'm not criticizing the islamic practice. I'm criticizing your double-standards.
You have done little to show that I have been keeping double standards.
Also: Who gives you the right to say what is and isn't an important tradition in japanese culture? Do you have any proof that the majority of japanese people does not think it's important?
No, not really. I do know however that AkiraYamato has not provided cultural significance for it. I do know that the Ainu people of Northern Japan give whales and whale hunting spiritual significance. But these beliefs and practices are in the minority and went extinct far before the modern day. I do know that most Japanese dont even eat whale meat, or do so exceedingly rarely.
If AkiraYamato can point out its cultural significance beyond "Just Because", then I may well concede the point.
I didn't know that Islam required animal sacrifices. Is that common throughout, or more specific to certain groups?
The sacrifice is made during Ed al-Adha. The meat is divided 3 ways: 1/3 goes to the direct family of the people who made the sacrifice, 1/3 goes to relatives, and 1/3 goes to the poor who cannot afford to eat.
