I never mentioned chanting.
No.
God does not punish us for our sins; that's why Jesus died.
If God punished us by making us ill, or whatever, every time we sinned then a) we'd all be constantly ill
b) Jesus would have died for nothing.
Your opinion disagrees with scripture.
"But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this reason many are weak and sick among you (1 Corinthians 11:28-30, NKJV)"
If you sin constantly then you need to repent since sinners will go to Hell. Only those who shun evil and do good will be saved.
Jesus did not die to give you a license to sin.
Even if we don't "feel" he is with us..Because when we feel the spirit of the Lord through our saviour Jesus Christ he knows what's in our thoughts and he leads us beside still waters, it's so our souls can be restored. For example he knows my nephew "Jacob is poorly" and he knows I know that Jacobs soul is full of the spirit of Christ. Praise be to Jesus our Lord and saviour.
Ive been thinking about this a lot. Im not sure about praying at all. I mean I get told to pray and God will answer my prayers but if he doesn’t its Gods will…..but he’s still listening….. Or im told if I have enough faith, If I truly believe my prayers will be answered….
So..you kinda got back to my original point. Its pointless to pray for anything. Except to give thanks etc like some said here. But pointless of appealing to God when you need him coz his mind is already made up and pointless other people saying they will pray for you.
So..you kinda got back to my original point. Its pointless to pray for anything. Except to give thanks etc like some said here. But pointless of appealing to God when you need him coz his mind is already made up and pointless other people saying they will pray for you.
This is all christian rethoric
He said, praying for stuff, thats what the gentiles do,
2. His mind is not made up.
What exactly did he say about the Gentiles? That praying for stuff was not cool, as you say? or was it something else:
And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. (Matthew 6:7 ESV)
I use the ESV there because you offer no reference
We can pray for stuff if the cause is just and not selfish.
I'd guess these verses have already been mentioned, but they pretty well cover what spirit we should pray in and deal with the OP as well as it can be dealt with: And that doesn't mean those prayers will always be answered, but if any prayers will be, it's the ones asked in the right spirit.
Mat 6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seekfor your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
It's not about selfishness or not at all. In the passage i quoted jesus says not to seek these things becaue god already knows we need it.
I take it that all your prayers, or at least far the most, are answered, then.
When you are sick, and u ask for healing - as its promised in the word that god will heal just as much as he will forgive all that asks him - then i take you re ALWAYS healed. am i right? Its very harsh to convince a very sick person taht seeks god for his healing that he is selfish. How are we going around that, not to pray for our own healing and not be selfish? Well, peter tells us to remember that by his stripes we were healed. So whyis God going back on his word then, as it is a fact that most christians prayers for their own healing are NEVER answered? Is it god that says no, youre to selfish? Definitly it is not.
As far as all my prayers being answered/always healed, I'm not sure how to take the questions...it almost sounds like a challenge or you're refuting something I said, but I don't know what.. Probably best you clarify a point there.
Ive been thinking about this a lot. Im not sure about praying at all. I mean I get told to pray and God will answer my prayers but if he doesn’t its Gods will…..but he’s still listening….. Or im told if I have enough faith, If I truly believe my prayers will be answered…. So Im thinking well wait… when I was in trouble and asked for Gods help …. And something bad happened …does that mean God was…well what…was it just Gods will that I just have to suffer... Or I didn’t ask hard enough or believe..…or was it that God heard but decided he wasn’t going to intervene or couldn’t intervene. So what was the point of praying because if its god will and so…well what is he going to be like…well I was going to let you suffer but since you asked for help then fine…I will.
And then I get angry when people say they will pray for me or I hear lots will pray for me …and I get frustrated because its like…well what are you all telling me – If I ask God and he says no then..Ok he says no but then maybe if you pray for me or ask…or lots pray for me…then maybe he’ll change his mind and be like..Ok well when Zoii asked I wasn’t going to but since all u lot asked….. Why does lots praying make a difference – If its gods will then not even one person asking will change it so why would two or three etc.
I know this sounds maybe disrespectful but im not meaning to be….
well, it can be easily proven that healing is a covered promise just like forgiveness.
So since i assue you do not see selfishness as a problem with asking god for healing, i take it - since you say this is the right way to ask - that you are always healed when u ask for healing?
cop out.But you were making that same point when you thought I did see asking for healing was selfish. Seems I'm not going to be right here either way.
Like I said, we definitely disagree on some things, and probably best leave it at that.
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