What's so bad about the Book of Mormon?

[Theway]

And the Jews there were too stupid to point out that the "Father" hadn't said a thing in testimony. Not the best way to convince me.

But he did, in the scriptures, and also at Jesus' baptism.

 

[LoAmmi]

But he did, in the scriptures, and also at Jesus' baptism.

In what scriptures? How many of those people in front of him were at Jesus's baptism?

If I told you that I was awesome and that G-d also testified to it, would you believe me? If not, why not?

 

[Theway]

Unfortunately, that can't be proven.

But it can, you are just looking in the wrong places, because you are looking for phyical evidences to provide you with spiritual truth.

 

[Theway]

In what scriptures? How many of those people in front of him were at Jesus's baptism?

If I told you that I was awesome and that G-d also testified to it, would you believe me? If not, why not?

I would have no reason to disbelieve you.
However why would I even care whether you were awesome or not, as long as you are not interfering with my awesomeness?

 

[LoAmmi]

I would have no reason to disbelieve you.
However why would I even care whether you were awesome or not, just as long as you are not interfering with my awesomeness?

How about if I claimed to be the Messiah? Is that something you'd care about? I'm telling you that G-d testified to it, so that's two witnesses.

 

[Theway]

How about if I claimed to be the Messiah? Is that something you'd care about? I'm telling you that G-d testified to it, so that's two witnesses.

No not really! God already testified to me who the true Messiah was.... I don't recall your name ever coming up though???

 

[LoAmmi]

No not really! God already testified to me who the true Messiah was.... I don't recall your name ever coming up though???

Likewise, He already testified about who the true Messiah was through the Prophets and nobody has yet met the requirements. Jesus's name certainly never came up.

 

[Theway]

Likewise, He already testified about who the true Messiah was through the Prophets and nobody has yet met the requirements. Jesus's name certainly never came up.

Thats all the scriptures and the Prophets did was testify of Jesus. However, I can see how many missed it, because as Christ pointed out, He never came in His name or to do His Will, but the Father's.
John 5:39-43
39. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41: I receive not honour from men. 42. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

True to Christ's statement, many Messiahs came after Him in their own names, and the Jews believed them instead.

 

[LoAmmi]

Which Messiahs have the Jews believed exactly?

 

[mmksparbud]

Again, the Book of Mormon testifies to the truth of the story of Christ, and the Book of Mormon was written by many people.... So it applies
Yes, you can jump in, however your personal opinion as a nonLDS was not germane to the question asked... I also find you statement hypocritical and ironic, seeing as though your "statement of truth" required no corroborating witnesses and yet you want us to believe you???
Again, more unsolicited opinions on your part.... Buy your own soapbox, and get off of mine.

Only JS wrote it--there are no other authors that can be shown to have written anything--produce the golden plates and maybe you have something. The bible has years of ancient writings found, including the dead sea scrolls.
My personal opinion, and that of anyone else is entitled to be heard. Hate to tell you this, but this is not your personal soap box---neither did you pay for it!! I suggest you keep to the topic and get off my tail---not kosher!! The soap box has lots of room.

 

[A New Dawn]

Do you believe that the Book of Mormon is made up

Yes. I believe that much of it was copied verbatim from the Bible, and the rest is a figment of Sidney Rigdon's imagination.

 

[fatboys]

Yes. I believe that much of it was copied verbatim from the Bible, and the rest is a figment of Sidney Rigdon's imagination.

Your kidding

 

[smaneck]

Yes. I believe that much of it was copied verbatim from the Bible, and the rest is a figment of Sidney Rigdon's imagination.

I didn't think Rigdon met Smith until after the Book of Mormon was published.

 

[fatboys]

I didn't think Rigdon met Smith until after the Book of Mormon was published.

Correct. This is just one of the ways critics try to use to discredit Joseph Smith

 

[Songsmith]

Why do you even need the Book of Mormon if you can show me point for point that its doctrine is the same as in the Bible? It would be completely worthless for you to have it then.

If there were no major changes needed to be made to the Bible, why would God waste his time revealing all this to some farmer boy?

Thank you for asking such an important question. I would not begin to know the full reasons that God decided to bring forth the Book of Mormon, but I have a few ideas.
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Part of the reason for the Book of Mormon is to show that there were those among God's chosen people who knew Jesus by name before Jesus came in the flesh. It sheds light upon some of the Old Testament scriptures that point toward Jesus as Messiah. It also serves to show how God will lead any people who will submit to His will and delight in His ways.

I will say that I find it repugnant to say that something that gives us more insight into God's mind is worthless. How do you say that? Even telling a story that happened to two people from two different perspectives gives more insight into the truth. I choose to search out God in whatever sphere He decides to reveal Himself. I don't find him outside of Christianity. I do find God within the pages of the Book of Mormon.

 

[smaneck]

Which Messiahs have the Jews believed exactly?

Messiah bin David and Messiah bin Joseph

And let's not forget Cyrus the Great.

 

[RDKatz]

Which is just laughable that this is considered a "divine translation" of non-existant texts. Did this "supreme being" really say "white" and "black", or did it say "pure" and "impure"? That some other work "relies" on it is meaningless.

The concept of equating White with Pure is not uncommon. While it might be unacceptable in the modern PC world, it was perfectly acceptable in the past. It is also scripturally sound:

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

(Old Testament | Daniel 12:10)

 

[RDKatz]

Only JS wrote it--there are no other authors that can be shown to have written anything--produce the golden plates and maybe you have something. The bible has years of ancient writings found, including the dead sea scrolls.
My personal opinion, and that of anyone else is entitled to be heard. Hate to tell you this, but this is not your personal soap box---neither did you pay for it!! I suggest you keep to the topic and get off my tail---not kosher!! The soap box has lots of room.

Wordprint analysis proves you are sadly mistaken. http://nanilaie.info/?p=1035

 

[smaneck]

Wordprint analysis proves you are sadly mistaken. http://nanilaie.info/?p=1035

Who are Larson and Rencher? Are they Mormons? Were they able to get their findings published in a referred academic journal?

 

[mmksparbud]

Wordprint analysis proves you are sadly mistaken. http://nanilaie.info/?p=1035

Any non-Mormon academic journals??