an7222 said:Our limited and conditional free will is nothing compared to the free will of God.
Maybe, but the two are exclusive. I never brought up God's will, just man's.
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an7222 said:Our limited and conditional free will is nothing compared to the free will of God.
an7222 said:...if you were a God for just one day? I would stop sufferings in the world. And you?
CSmrw said:And I would be the one ion the front of the line to be smitten, with a hot lougi waiting for your pathetic, tribalistic and profane eye. ANd how I would smile as you struck me down.
Depends a bit on what sort of God I would be.an7222 said:...if you were a God for just one day? I would stop sufferings in the world. And you?
Misty Minister said:Then I would give all the women the breast size they really want . Next I would make all male members exactly the same size.
KalEl76 said:Now, I have shown you what the Old Testament Lord would do. However, if I was the Lord, I would come back and wipe away all tears, heal the sick, allow the blind to see and the lame will walk. I will make it to where no one will ever go hungry again and that money and power never again will be something to fight over.
here's the problem with how you see it. if you are the atheist that you claim to be, you don't believe that God has anything to do with our present situation. that means where we are at right now is strictly a function of how man has worked things out. left to ourselves, i doubt we have 100 years to survive. that is what working it out on our own has achieved. a death sentence, whether you look at it theologically or simply biologically.CSmrw said:Then I would be first in line to spit. You let it go on this long, damned billions of people to a lifetime of degradation and suffering and think this makes up for it. Back to heaven with you. We will work it out on our own.
reverend B said:here's the problem with how you see it. if you are the atheist that you claim to be, you don't believe that God has anything to do with our present situation. that means where we are at right now is strictly a function of how man has worked things out. left to ourselves, i doubt we have 100 years to survive. that is what working it out on our own has achieved. a death sentence, whether you look at it theologically or simply biologically.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.
"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9
i have no idea what i would do, as his methods are beyond my ability to reconcile with my thoughts. if i were God for a day, i would pray for the day to end.
that may be true, but if u don't believe in God then you can't blame it on God. you can blame human believers maybe, though this seems very limited, but not God.CSmrw said:Our present situation IS pretty bleak. We live longer, more comfortably and in better health than ever before in history...at least we did until we elected Bush. Now we will have to see. The wars we wage, while certainly vile, are nothing when compared to the wars waged in the middle ages, the Roman and Greek empires, the Chinese and Japanese feudal conflicts. When adjusted for population differences, the ancients make us look very tame.
There are never going to be a ceassation of problems, but when a vast majority in the world proffesses a faith and we still have less than a hundred years as a species, I think perhaps it's not we atheists that need to rethink our positions. Whatever the faithful think they doing, it is not working out.
reverend B said:that may be true, but if u don't believe in God then you can't blame it on God.
couldn't tell you. seems like a direct response to you telling God to go back to heaven and leave us alone, that we can handle it. why don't you tell me your opinion rather than snipe?CSmrw said:I want you to explain to me why, in the context of this thread, your above response is silly.
reverend B said:couldn't tell you. seems like a direct response to you telling God to go back to heaven and leave us alone, that we can handle it. why don't you tell me your opinion rather than snipe?
have the courage to have a discussion. the rest of us do.CSmrw said:Honestly? If you read the post in the context of this thread, no explanation is necessary. And if you can't do that, no explanation would suffice.
reverend B said:have the courage to have a discussion. the rest of us do.
as i recall, your response was get lost. we humans can handle it. am i missing something? it is perfectly possible that i am. i fully accept that as a distinct possibility.CSmrw said:The question: What would you do if YOU WERE GOD
A resonse: Bring down wrath and fire
MY response: I defy you
His respnse: That was me as Old God. Now me as New God, bring down love and tenderness
MY response: Too little too late
Your response: Don't talk about my god that way
My Response: Are you kidding? KalEl is your God? Well, at least he exists.
I hope this puts you back into a happy place.