What Would YOU Do If . . .?

[OphidiaPhile]

When all else fails, play the emotional card. Huh KID? Not exactly an original position here KID.

Diseases and disorders hit all families alike.

Then I would talk to me child about all the seedy, debauched, depraved, promiscuous and deviant practices of the sexually inflamed, IF, he or she DECIDED, to pursue a life outside of Christian culture and reality of what is proper and acceptable sexual behavior. If you pursue a life defined by your sex life and desires, hardly does happiness abound.

And then I would remind them that marriage, FOR CHRISTIANS, is not obtainable in a same-gender coupling and to use their mind and reason there way out of same-gender sexual desires. It's all about choice for human beings endowed by God with a mind that can think things out. No differrently then if they embraced any other sexually deviant thoughts.

You know, applying Christian truth to the matter.

Thanks for asking KID.

So you would never accept them as they are and would then do what if they were "still" gay regardless of your objections?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

What would you do if they didn't see it your way, Polycarp_fan?

Since Paul knew all about depraved sexual practices so well, I would follow his advice:

"Pray without cease."

The Prodigal is a parable of remarkable accuracy. If I can make it through the life Ilived and find my way back to Gospel reality, why think they couldn't? There are lots of Ex-gays out there. Don't "you guys" always say its just about thoughts and not always about actions?

You can find hope in even the darkest of places.



----- There's a reason why the world thinks the way it does.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

So you would never accept them as they are and would then do what if they were "still" gay regardless of your objections?

No.

That sums it up in the sin department.

 

[cantata]

"Pray without cease."

Out of interest, would incessant nagging and guilt-tripping accompany that prayer?

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Out of interest, would incessant nagging and guilt-tripping accompany that prayer?

I always did wonder why people thought god wanted to listen to them gripe, complain and ask for stuff all day long. Even praise would get old. Seriously, I think I would go insane if even one person walked around all day thanking me for every little thing.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Out of interest, would incessant nagging and guilt-tripping accompany that prayer?

Once again, you show that you are "studying" Christianity but not reading the New Testament.

Prayer is to be in a place of solace and privacy.

The place I'm sure where those that prayed me out of a depraved life and lifestyle did their effective work. I don;t remember one of my Christian friends or family members EVER nagging me.

The "guilt-tripping" thing comes already packaged in a healthy mind.

If sin and sinning comes with no feelings of regret, then there are bigger problems with someone then just their sexual passions.

Like I said, it gets darker and darker. There's still hope, but it gets darker and darker to find it.

Which of course needs the Light to find it.

You just don't have the wow factor here that you think you do Cantata. I have many ex-gay friends. Well sevearl anyway. ALL of whom are Christians. That is the ones who haved shared their stories. I find that uneccesary, but some people seem to need it in the Church. Once repented of, sins no longer exist. Consequences still do (as Paul makes so clear) but that's for another thread.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I always did wonder why people thought god wanted to listen to them gripe, complain and ask for stuff all day long. Even praise would get old. Seriously, I think I would go insane if even one person walked around all day thanking me for every little thing.

Hmm, you sound like a Christian.

No puppet master god for us.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

You just don't have the wow factor here that you think you do Cantata. I have many ex-gay friends. Well sevearl anyway. ALL of whom are Christians. That is the ones who haved shared their stories. I find that uneccesary, but some people seem to need it in the Church. Once repented of, sins no longer exist. Consequences still do (as Paul makes so clear) but that's for another thread.

I have many ex-Christian friends, some (but not all) of whom are gay. What's your point?

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Hmm, you sound like a Christian.

No puppet master god for us.

Mmmmmokay...?

 

[.Sabre.]

I don't want kids, but if I ever had one and s/he turned out to be gay, I think I would be as un-shocked as one can possibly be. I'm bisexual myself, so it really wouldn't make sense for me to get freaked out. However, I'd be very concerned about them facing prejudice and thus have a talk with them about it, and help them should such issues arise.

I'm from a "nice Christian background", and when I was younger I used to hate myself for every homosexual thought or dream I had. I'd fantasize about absconding, taking a new name, dyeing my hair, totally becoming unrecognisable to my family and then being me, away from people who'd hate me.

 

[cantata]

Once again, you show that you are "studying" Christianity but not reading the New Testament.

Prayer is to be in a place of solace and privacy.

I didn't deny it.

You just don't have the wow factor here that you think you do Cantata. I have many ex-gay friends. Well sevearl anyway. ALL of whom are Christians. That is the ones who haved shared their stories. I find that uneccesary, but some people seem to need it in the Church. Once repented of, sins no longer exist. Consequences still do (as Paul makes so clear) but that's for another thread.

I'm not looking for a wow factor, Polycarp_fan. In fact, I don't really mind how you feel about my questions. I just get a sort of slightly chilling pleasure out of seeing you talking about this stuff. I try to imagine what you're going to say, but it's always much worse than I was expecting. It's a bit like watching a horror film, in that respect.

Of course, it's a lot more upsetting than a horror film, because you're a real person and therefore potentially real people could be hurt, but what can I say? It's a guilty pleasure.

 

[sidhe]

I'm not looking for a wow factor, Polycarp_fan. In fact, I don't really mind how you feel about my questions. I just get a sort of slightly chilling pleasure out of seeing you talking about this stuff. I try to imagine what you're going to say, but it's always much worse than I was expecting. It's a bit like watching a horror film, in that respect.

Of course, it's a lot more upsetting than a horror film, because you're a real person and therefore potentially real people could be hurt, but what can I say? It's a guilty pleasure.

PC_F is like reading Robert Anton Wilson as a horror story, or CTSTDT.

No...Alex Jones. Above Top Secret. That's more the style here. There is a nebulous and obvious "Them" who have oodles of power and Everyone Knows It's REAL, but a large number are in on the Conspiracy and work to cover it up.

On the OP: My kid probably wouldn't feel the need. They'd probably just show up with their bf/gf and I'd probably not notice the gender. So it goes.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I didn't deny it.



I'm not looking for a wow factor, Polycarp_fan. In fact, I don't really mind how you feel about my questions. I just get a sort of slightly chilling pleasure out of seeing you talking about this stuff. I try to imagine what you're going to say, but it's always much worse than I was expecting. It's a bit like watching a horror film, in that respect.

Of course, it's a lot more upsetting than a horror film, because you're a real person and therefore potentially real people could be hurt, but what can I say? It's a guilty pleasure.

You are trying to influence people your way.

I just present opposition to that.

It's nice to see you can take it all in stride.

Because I'm telling my kids to let people with your opinions about morality to just keep walking by.

As nice as you appear to be, your opinions and positions are what I am teaching people about.

Every Christian comes "out" of a worldy, and almost always, a licentious world view. Behaviors, activities and all.

You just can't expect the most effective poisons to be bitter tasting.

Especially when you've tasted so many, been sickened by them so often and don;t want to repeat the process ad infintum ad nauseum (so to speak).

I expect my children to be tainted by the world and its ways. I pray against it, but it won't be shocking if they get caught up in the evil and debauchery that is part of life's experiences. So many little boys and girls trying on the gay coat these days, so much of this fad will pass like public hippy orgies of the 60's. (I saw film clips and have talked with those that were there.)

That is a theme that one cannot escape when reading what Jesus and His Disciples wrote about.

I like to call it the "Duh" factor.

I think Jesus called that Parable the Prodigal son. It's the most common one we see played out over and over and over again. Just dwarfs the pharisees deal.

I like interacting with you. Your so emotional and sometimes so witty.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

PC_F is like reading Robert Anton Wilson as a horror story, or CTSTDT.

No...Alex Jones. Above Top Secret. That's more the style here. There is a nebulous and obvious "Them" who have oodles of power and Everyone Knows It's REAL, but a large number are in on the Conspiracy and work to cover it up.

On the OP: My kid probably wouldn't feel the need. They'd probably just show up with their bf/gf and I'd probably not notice the gender. So it goes.

Let's seeee, your icon says Pagan . . .

. . . ah no, why bother a "Christian" reply.

All too typical.

 

[cantata]

I'm not sure what that had to do with my post, but okay. You carry on there, Pc_f. I'm just looking forward to the next hide-behind-the-sofa moment. *shudder*

May I just suggest that you stick 100% to praying and don't even mention your distaste to your hypothetical gay child? After all, I know that when I was younger (okay, I admit it - even now), if my parents nagged me about something I would automatically want to do the exact opposite, especially (weirdly) if it was something I was going to do already.

 

[sidhe]

Let's seeee, your icon says Pagan . . .

. . . ah no, why bother a "Christian" reply.

All too typical.

Again, respond to people as if they're individuals rather than part of the Borg.

Unless they're Unitarian Universalists...they are the Borg. UU of 8! You will be assimilated! All your religion are belong to us!

Reps to anyone who gets that incredibly obscure reference...

 

[cantata]

Unless they're Unitarian Universalists...they are the Borg. UU of 8! You will be assimilated! All your religion are belong to us!

Someone set up us the pluralism!

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I'm not sure what that had to do with my post, but okay. You carry on there, Pc_f. I'm just looking forward to the next hide-behind-the-sofa moment. *shudder*

I don't want to know who you are with behind that sofa or what you are doing with whatever gender is there with you OK?

Dont ask, don't tell. A very decent position.

May I just suggest that you stick 100% to praying and don't even mention your distaste to your hypothetical gay child?

Praying and showing my children what kinds of people can lead them into a life of sin and regret. You know, being a good father. Yeah, believe it or not, my kids are mine, I'm married to their mom, they were born long after we married and we all have the same last name. Almost as rare as it gets in their world these days.

After all, I know that when I was younger (okay, I admit it - even now), if my parents nagged me about something I would automatically want to do the exact opposite, especially (weirdly) if it was something I was going to do already.

I will continue to do this very thing. I know all about the bad influence that young girls seem to be drawn to. And of course in today's world it's a far wider scope. I won't exactly say that she has to date a hell's angel, a liberal, or a shaved headed tatooed, sleeveless, manly looking chick, but I won't give her the list of those people I find repugnant. I'll be saddled with the grandchild more than likely, if she goes with the dude, or I'll be saddled with the incessant phone calls and threatening environment if she goes les-drama.

When I was younger, A rock and roller dude, I figured out the rebel with a cuase routine landed lot's of girls from lot's of different kinds of families. (Pretty flippin' easy really.)

I'm a skilled Christian now.

 

[cantata]

I don't really understand what you're talking about, but okay.

Do you have any other comments to make about my sex life? No, seriously. I'm interested.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Let's seeee, your icon says Pagan . . .

. . . ah no, why bother a "Christian" reply.

All too typical.

Ah yes, because we all know the pagans are less than human and not worthy of your Most High articulation.