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I would rather be closer to Jesus!East and West "officially" went their separate ways in 1054 AD, whereas John Calvin denied the papacy in the 1530's and Calvinism was born. You are much closer to Rome than the Orthodox.
Love,
Christina
Nope, quite happy where I am and in my walk with the Lord...thanks anyway.Then I suggest you head East
Wow.Maybe calvinism was born because people started to read the scriptures for themselves and God revealed truth through His written word. Taking out the human authority and going to the true Head of the Chrurch.
If food were the criteria for choice of religion, I'd be Chinese Zen Bhuddist.Better food
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Convert, or die.How was it forced upon another?
Did they put ashes on their head or what? How did that go down? Knives to throats? How does one force a conversion?
Has that EVER happened the other way? Has there ever been people forced to convert to Eastern Orthodoxy? I'm not trying to find dirt, just curious.Knives to throats. Many refused to convert and became martyrs for the Orthodox faith.
Hmmm. perhaps chronilogically, Prots are closer to RC than EO... but I wouldn't think we are closer theologically.Yup, it's a complicated thing.
Take it this way, weve drifted apart enough that Orthodox find more similarity between Protestants and RCs then Orthodox and RCs. While outer expression of faith might be very similar with RC and EO, we find an inner essence of the faith to be drastically different (not of the same faith). On the other side, we see that RCs and Protestants, while they are not of the same faith too, are much closer in this inner essence of the faith.
nestoj
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"Let us hear then, as many of us as neglect the reading of the scriptures, to what harm we are subjecting ourselves, to what poverty..."Maybe calvinism was born because people started to read the scriptures for themselves and God revealed truth through His written word. Taking out the human authority and going to the true Head of the Chrurch.
Btw, how do the Orthodox [and Protestants] view that "jewish man" in Zech 8:23? Thanks.Hmmm. perhaps chronilogically, Prots are closer to RC than EO... but I wouldn't think we are closer theologically.
I know for certian, that I would sooner convert to EO than to RC!
, some Greek food is alright, but it is mostly just rip offs of Turkish and Middle Eastern food.
IIRC 'Italian' food came about when Rome carried off Greek cooks as slaves.
There are some (Orthodox) who ascribe the origin (innovation) of the hierarchical model to the insertion of the filoque into the Creed. Not only the method of insertion ( without convening an ecumenical council), but by introducing an "imbalanced" (hierarchical) understanding of the Trinity. In sum, right worship and right belief are inextricably linked;What we call the "Orthodox Church" was never subjugated beneath Rome, in fact, no other bishop rightfully should be--bishops are equal. Archbishops may lead regions, but they don't have authority over another bishop of a different region. If there are eve problems, a synod of bishops can concur to depose another who may be corrupt, but it cannot be done by any single bishop unilaterally. They lead, but don't rule over each other. Please study the collegial model of Church structure, which was the biblical model, as opposed to the innovation of a hierarchical model later invented by the Roman Catholic religion. Hierarchy may work in business, but not within Christ's one holy apostolic Church.
Basil
That is the difficulty we have when discussing our Bible to the "heathen" non-christians also.There are some (Orthodox) who ascribe the origin (innovation) of the hierarchical model to the insertion of the filoque into the Creed. Not only the method of insertion ( without convening an ecumenical council), but by introducing an "imbalanced" (hierarchical) understanding of the Trinity. In sum, right worship and right belief are inextricably linked;
as Oblio says, "Dogma matters."
I don't think they even CAN drop that now, can they? Kind of painted into a corner, so to speak?Should the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church ever think of reuniting, a number of things would have to happen.
-Papal Supremacy and infallibility: gone.
agreed on that point.EC said:-Filioque: gone.
what is that?EC said:-Novus Ordo: gone.
musical instruments? or something else?EC said:-Instruments in worship: gone.
don't bishops have to be celibate in EO though? ( I remember seeing that ONE level of the heiarchy had to be, anyways.EC said:-Priestly celibacy: gone.
it's been defined as infallible truth. They CAN'T back away from that one, I don't think.EC said:-Immaculate Conception: gone.
I certainly don't.EO said:I believe that most Roman Catholics (and Protestants) only see reunification between Roman Catholics and Orthodox as such: Orthodox essentially becoming Eastern Rite Catholics under the pope.
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