What Would Falsify the Flood? (2)

[dad]

I don't know about you, but I don't feel that belief should take precedence over actions.

Actions are kind of after the fact. If we are fighting God, our actions will get worse and worse. If we come to Him, they are bound to improve.


The action that really matters is believing!

Joh 6:29 -Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I can understand feeling that one must both be a believer and a decent person, but I never found justice in the idea that killers or rapists could evade punishment because of belief.

They can't. Most would use 'belief' as an excuse, and attempt at leniency I suspect. On the other hand man's evil unjust laws might call some people a rapist if they had sex with a wife, and she reported it as rape out of spite or some such nonsense. A parent might rescue a child from an evil mom or dad, and be called a kidnapper....a child might quote the bible or have one at school and be called a criminal...etc etc etc.

I never said the Greek gods were good, I don't think they are. Even at their best they are portrayed as cruel, selfish, and cold.

Since they would be fallen evil spirits, that fits.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Actions are kind of after the fact. If we are fighting God, our actions will get worse and worse. If we come to Him, they are bound to improve.


The action that really matters is believing!

Joh 6:29 -Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


They can't. Most would use 'belief' as an excuse, and attempt at leniency I suspect. On the other hand man's evil unjust laws might call some people a rapist if they had sex with a wife, and she reported it as rape out of spite or some such nonsense. A parent might rescue a child from an evil mom or dad, and be called a kidnapper....a child might quote the bible or have one at school and be called a criminal...etc etc etc.



Since they would be fallen evil spirits, that fits.

Hey, spousal rape is a real thing; no means no, even if you are married. I have never heard of a child in the U.S. being called a criminal for bringing a bible to school.

What would you say if I told you some people improve their behavior and are less hateful and overall sinful when they STOP being super religious? I find that many fundamentalist Christians get so caught up in their own religion that they forget to follow the messages within it. Pride seems to be the biggest sin amidst fundamentalists, but that is just my opinion. After all, doesn't the bible say to worship privately, not to boast about it?

 

[dad]

Hey, spousal rape is a real thing; no means no, even if you are married.

So is false allegations a real thing.

1 Cor 7: 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

I have never heard of a child in the U.S. being called a criminal for bringing a bible to school.

" In January 2010, 16-year-old Kenneth Dominguez was suspended for two days from Gateway East High School for violating a teacher’s order not to bring his Bible to school and not to discuss his faith with others. Dominguez’s Bible was even confiscated by that teacher, who said Dominguez’s actions violated “separation of church and state:”


Boy Suspended for Bringing Bible To School Files Suit | Video | TheBlaze.com

What would you say if I told you some people improve their behavior and are less hateful and overall sinful when they STOP being super religious?

Being religious is not biblical. The Pharisees were religious.

I find that many fundamentalist Christians get so caught up in their own religion that they forget to follow the messages within it. Pride seems to be the biggest sin amidst fundamentalists, but that is just my opinion. After all, doesn't the bible say to worship privately, not to boast about it?

It says preach the gospel in all the world to every creature actually, and to do so even if it is illegal!

 

[PsychoSarah]

So is false allegations a real thing.

1 Cor 7: 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 !

That means that the wife has dominion over her husband's body as well as the husband has dominion over his wife's body; what they do with each others' bodies is through mutual agreement, and this doesn't given men the right to do as they please with their wives bodies, least their wives be able to do as they please with their husbands, which might not be all that pleasant.

False alligations are real, but that doesn't make the crime itself not real.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here we go with yet another disgusting topic.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Here we go with yet another disgusting topic.

Hey, I am not the one that brought it up, you can thank dad for that (awkward sentence, thanks to that username).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hey, I am not the one that brought it up, you can thank dad for that (awkward sentence, thanks to that username).

AV has some strange aversion to sex. And yet he claims that he loves his wife.

 

[PsychoSarah]

AV has some strange aversion to sex. And yet he claims that he loves his wife.

I guess. Then again, I have touch phobia, so it doesn't actually seem all that weird to me.

 

[dad]

That means that the wife has dominion over her husband's body as well as the husband has dominion over his wife's body; what they do with each others' bodies is through mutual agreement, and this doesn't given men the right to do as they please with their wives bodies, least their wives be able to do as they please with their husbands, which might not be all that pleasant.

It means they should not deny sex, to be blunt.

False alligations are real, but that doesn't make the crime itself not real.

There was no crime if the allegations were false!

 

[PsychoSarah]

It means they should not deny sex, to be blunt.


There was no crime if the allegations were false!

Bearing false witness is a crime; spousal rape is also a crime.

 

[dad]

Bearing false witness is a crime; spousal rape is also a crime.

You suggest dumping her if she crosses her legs?

 

[PsychoSarah]

You suggest dumping her if she crosses her legs?

I suggest that anytime sex isn't mutually consensual, it is rape. With either gender (it happens to guys too).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Bearing false witness is a crime; spousal rape is also a crime.

It seems that dad would disagree with that.

 

[dad]

I suggest that anytime sex isn't mutually consensual, it is rape. With either gender (it happens to guys too).

Marriage is supposed to be consensual. If one alters the agreement, then I suggest one should be ready to a new contract discussion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Could we change the subject, please?

 

[bhsmte]

Marriage is supposed to be consensual. If one alters the agreement, then I suggest one should be ready to a new contract discussion.

Everything your spouse wants should automatically be consented to by the other?

That would be a great marriage.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Marriage is supposed to be consensual. If one alters the agreement, then I suggest one should be ready to a new contract discussion.

I would like you to show me someone with wedding vows which state that they have to submit to sex whenever the husband (or wife, for that matter) wants it no matter what.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Could we change the subject, please?

You are so delicate with this. Watching Law and Order SVU must be impossible to you.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are so delicate with this. Watching Law and Order SVU must be impossible to you.

I don't watch TV, but my wife does, and she won't watch SVU.

Law & Order and NCIS are her two favorite shows though.

 

[biggles53]

Everything your spouse wants should automatically be consented to by the other?

That would be a great marriage.

It must be so much fun being Mrs dad......