What Would Falsify the Flood? (2)

[Subduction Zone]

How would you know?

By using and applying science.

Too bad man is full of errors.

Yes, yes he is. And thanks for admitting that your human written Bible is full of errors. Science uses a methodology that minimizes errors. No one has found a way to minimize the errors of the Bible yet.

Yes.

Really? The worst failed Bible prophesy and you want to lose again? You do know that the mere fact that we can show Tyre on a map debunks that old wives tale, don't you?

I try. Hey, what's not to believe?

All sorts of things. The myths of all of Genesis and Exodus. Jonah and the whale. I could go on and on but the moderators might not appreciate it.

 

[dad]

By using and applying science.

Which character does that make fictional??

Yes, yes he is. And thanks for admitting that your human written Bible is full of errors.

No. Don't misrepresent me.

Science uses a methodology that minimizes errors.

It minimalizes chances of getting caught! The cultish methodology omits all but selected criteria.

No one has found a way to minimize the errors of the Bible yet.

Or find any.

Really? The worst failed Bible prophesy and you want to lose again? You do know that the mere fact that we can show Tyre on a map debunks that old wives tale, don't you?

No. I don't know that. Here is a clue...'ultimate fulfillment'.

All sorts of things. The myths of all of Genesis and Exodus. Jonah and the whale. I could go on and on but the moderators might not appreciate it.

Nah, I believe it all.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It minimalizes chances of getting caught! The cultish methodology omits all but selected criteria.
Or find any.

No. I don't know that. Here is a clue...'ultimate fulfillment'.
Nah, I believe it all.

We have found plenty of errors, shown when bible versions in other languages don't match up when translated properly. Even if there was some perfect bible, the years of translation, copying down, possible damage of pages, would mean that there is no way the bible of today matches up well with the original text.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Which character does that make fictional??
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I already covered that. Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Noah, Moses, the whole lot.

No. Don't misrepresent me.

Well please be clear then. If man is full of errors it is only logical that a book written by man would be full of errors. And your book is:
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It minimalizes chances of getting caught! The cultish methodology omits all but selected criteria.

No, you are once again laughably wrong. You can't even defend this claim of yours.

Or find any.

Ninth Commandment warning. I just linked a site that lists hundreds if not thousands of them.

No. I don't know that. Here is a clue...'ultimate fulfillment'.

Nope, that was a short term prophesy. It was worthless if it was meant to be long term. Here is an example of a short term prophesy:

I could predict that you will get shot. You don't. You die peacefully. Yet a great great grandson of yours gets winged in a hunting accident. That would not qualify as a fulfillment of the prophecy. It was not you. The people who the Tyre prophesy was aimed at were not killed. It failed terribly. We can still find Tyre today.

Nah, I believe it all.

You believe that the Earth is flat? You believe that it is a sin to wear polyester? I am truly amazed!

 

[Loudmouth]

Too bad man is full of errors.

Except, of course, when you want man written stories to be true, and then they are suddenly infallible, right?

 

[bhsmte]

Except, of course, when you want man written stories to be true, and then they are suddenly infallible, right?

I think you will find that is a common position of many creationist.

There is another creationist on this board that claims; anything about history whether science or written is pure fiction. That is, unless we are talking about the bible, then we need to make an exception.

Creationists tend to contradict themselves quite often in protecting their beliefs, this is just another example to add to many.

 

[dad]

We have found plenty of errors, shown when bible versions in other languages don't match up when translated properly.

The bible came in precious few languages and one can compare the original if one wants.

Even if there was some perfect bible, the years of translation, copying down, possible damage of pages, would mean that there is no way the bible of today matches up well with the original text.

Oh? Did you ever consider that God allowed a few different versions, because a balance was needed on some issues? For example the Septuagint differs on some minor things, yet some New Testament folks sometimes refer to it. That tells me it can be used and is maybe better in some areas. God is bigger than one translation or version.

 

[dad]

Except, of course, when you want man written stories to be true, and then they are suddenly infallible, right?

No. There are many basics that are beyond being subjected to different versions!! The fine tuning on some issues that can be done by comparing texts, does not affect the bigger issues, and requires the spirit of God to determine what is best. It may indeed even be one mechanism God uses to hide these things from the 'wise' and show them to the simple believers!

There is a reason for even the versions! Wow.

 

[Loudmouth]

No. There are many basics that are beyond being subjected to different versions!! The fine tuning on some issues that can be done by comparing texts, does not affect the bigger issues, and requires the spirit of God to determine what is best. It may indeed even be one mechanism God uses to hide these things from the 'wise' and show them to the simple believers!

There is a reason for even the versions! Wow.

That's a lot of gibberish. Besides, why should I believe you, a man? Why should I believe your man made interpretations of man made stories?

 

[dad]

I already covered that. Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Noah, Moses, the whole lot.

Citing names does not make them unreal. You kidding??

Well please be clear then. If man is full of errors it is only logical that a book written by man would be full of errors.

No! The errors are in the heads of those from whom it is hidden. Hey evos, come on over to the findin side!

Nope, that was a short term prophesy. It was worthless if it was meant to be long term.

Nope. I notice Tyre will be here in the future, apparently.


Ps 87:4 - I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there. Also, they are here even in the Tribulation/end times apparently!

Mt 11:22 -But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. So, merely having them here is not something that makes the bible a fail.

. The people who the Tyre prophesy was aimed at were not killed. It failed terribly. We can still find Tyre today.

I hope so otherwise how could the above verses be true!!?

You believe that the Earth is flat?

Don't preten the bible claims a flat earth. Ninth commandment and all, remember?

You believe that it is a sin to wear polyester?

That depends how we wear it and where and when! Sin has to do with the heart, not the attire so much.

 

[dad]

That's a lot of gibberish. Besides, why should I believe you, a man? Why should I believe your man made interpretations of man made stories?

You should believe God, then you might be able to tell at least what men were on or off the mark.

 

[Loudmouth]

You should believe God,

You are asking me to believe things written by men, not God.

 

[dad]

You are asking me to believe things written by men, not God.

Jesus rose from the dead according to those writings, and He affirmed it was God! The fulfillment affirm it too! People who try it confirm it also! It works! Like electricity, we can't see it but boy can we feel it, and watch it in action!

 

[TLK Valentine]

You should believe God, then you might be able to tell at least what men were on or off the mark.

God told me you're not even close.

 

[dad]

God told me you're not even close.

Not the Father of Jesus. Other gods are a dime a dozen...test the spirits.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Not the Father of Jesus. Other gods are a dime a dozen...test the spirits.

Actually, I personally find the religious texts of other religions to be more interesting than the bible for the most part. YHWH needs to find better writers.

 

[dad]

Actually, I personally find the religious texts of other religions to be more interesting than the bible for the most part. YHWH needs to find better writers.

Many find demons to be more desirable than angels too. So? If one grasped the scriptures or believed them, they would be the most interesting thing on earth. When you cast them off as foolish lies, they lose any attraction.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Many find demons to be more desirable than angels too. So? If one grasped the scriptures or believed them, they would be the most interesting thing on earth. When you cast them off as foolish lies, they lose any attraction.

Hardly, I don't believe the Greek myths, but they still fascinate me plenty.

 

[dad]

Hardly, I don't believe the Greek myths, but they still fascinate me plenty.

I do believe that they often represent actual spirits...mostly evil ones. That makes everything more interesting. Same with the bible, where the good spirit stories are.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I do believe that they often represent actual spirits...mostly evil ones. That makes everything more interesting. Same with the bible, where the good spirit stories are.

-_- sure, why not, the Greek gods are generally terrible beings.