What words are okay?

[Susan]

Yes, you should assume any word is bad until otherwise noted.

 

[Rize]

Originally posted by AngelAmidala
Uh.....where did you hear that the words, piece, package, agh, and ahh are bad?  I honestly have never ever heard this before.

A word like piece could its own bad connotation (guns are referred to as a "piece" from what I've heard places) but we (as humans, Christian or not) should know the difference between a piece of cake and a piece meaning the slang for a gun.  I should hope. 
What's really strange about this whole issue is that each Christian has their own idea of what music is bad/good...regardless of the word/theme issues.  For example, I think that a song is bad because of the language in it and the theme sung about.  But my sister, who is also a Christian likes the same song...doesn't agree with the language/theme but still thinks the song is good.  So who's right?  I guess that's the question that is trying to be answered.

What words are okay?  I guess it's a personal conviction issue.  How do you feel after saying a particular word?  Do you feel good about it, or do you feel guilty for saying whatever it is that you said?  If you feel guilty, then you probably stumbled upon a word that was better left unsaid.

I'm going to think on this subject a bit more....but I just wanted to say what I said here for now. 

With words such as peice... if someone really flipped out and got all sad when you said it... then you honestly should avoid saying that around them.  You can't expect to learn that except by experience though.

Now the badness of popular cursewords does not need to be learned by experience.  Everyone knows that there is a good chance that someone around you will find them offensive (I'm completely surprised that you don't).

Each of these words as a much less offensive alternative that we can use if it is necessary to describe the action that that word is normally used for.

As for things like "dang" those are meaningless swears said in habit (at best) or out of anger (at worst). 

I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all here. 

Like I said about... it's not about what you can get away with.  By the way, most translations do prohibit cursing.  Certain ones are less clear such as the NASB (a literal Greek to English translation).  Example:

But now you also, [Eph 4:22] put them all aside: [Eph 4:31] anger, wrath, malice, slander, and [Eph 4:29] <B>abusive</B> <B>speech</B> from your mouth. (NASB)

But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. (NIV)

But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. (KJV)

But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. (ESV)

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I still can't believe people can argue that cursing isn't wrong.&nbsp; Don't you feel the conviction when you say or listen to words like that?


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[Rize]

Originally posted by Susan
Yes, you should assume any word is bad until otherwise noted.

Come on

We all know which words are questionable.&nbsp; THOSE are bad, and everything else is neutral unless you see someone get offended by it.&nbsp; I reason that we are able to think and reason for a reason.

 

[Susan]

I am NOT joking or lying

 

[Susan]

I don't curse, and stop making me look like I do or approve of it

 

[AngelAmidala]

Originally posted by Rize
I still can't believe people can argue that cursing isn't wrong.&nbsp; Don't you feel the conviction when you say or listen to words like that?&nbsp;

When I hear words like that, I do feel convicted to do something about it.&nbsp; I hear my sister curse, and I tell her to watch her language.&nbsp; I hear a song on the radio that has a curse word in it, I turn it off.&nbsp; (Though I don't do that much because I don't listen to the radio much anymore....I prefer tapes or CDs.)

I used to be a person who said they were a Christian, but used curse words in my everyday language.&nbsp; What a bad Christian I was.&nbsp; But then something changed in me...and now I can't stand it (cursing).&nbsp; I'm pretty sure my sister can't stand me admonishing her for her language (and other stuff she talks about)..but I want to be a good example to her...so I have to.

Does that make sense?

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Rize
No you should assume they are.
Christianity isn't about what you can get away with.
Let Christ change you.

Assume what are? What words go on the list? Thats the point Rize.

Christ said fool. Can I exclude that one?

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Rize
I still can't believe people can argue that cursing isn't wrong.&nbsp; Don't you feel the conviction when you say or listen to words like that?&nbsp;

In what specific words are you expecting a conviction?

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Rize
We all know which words are questionable.&nbsp;

I'm guessing you don't live in Ireland!

 

[Rize]

Originally posted by Susan
Yes, you should assume any word is bad until otherwise noted.

You said ANY word!&nbsp; That covers the entire English language.&nbsp; That is why I thought you were joking.&nbsp; I don't think you curse

[edit]

Oh sorry, I read to quickly.

 

[Rize]

Originally posted by unworthyone
I'm guessing you don't live in Ireland!

I can't very well draw up a list now can I!?



Ok here we go.&nbsp; Anyword, whether a curse or not, shouldn't be used as a curse.

Blatant cursewords&nbsp;ARE obvious.&nbsp; We refer to them as the "insert letter of choice here" words.&nbsp; Again, just imagine you're talking to Jesus.&nbsp; What words you refrain from using in a prayer?&nbsp; Don't ever use those words.

 

[Dewjunkie]

My personal opinions are; if you can't get your point across without using vulgarity, then perhaps you should (a) rethink your point or (b) buy a thesarus. I've been in the Navy and I work in law enforcement. I have heard and continue to hear every combination of swear words known to man, and every time I do, I am reminded how completely unintelligent that person sounds. I agree that you should only use words you would use in a conversation with Jesus. You should also only use words that are going to make you as a Christian sound educated, we have enough "Christians" making us look bad.

 

[Susan]

Amen.

 

[4jc]

I agree with Dewjunkie. If you can't say it without swear words, dont say it.
Yeah, try swearing and then right after, say you are a christian. I think not.

We have to be an image of Jesus, and I highly doubt that Jesus swore. In fact I would put money on it that He did NOT swear.

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Rize
I can't very well draw up a list now can I!?



Ok here we go.&nbsp; Anyword, whether a curse or not, shouldn't be used as a curse.

Blatant cursewords&nbsp;ARE obvious.&nbsp; We refer to them as the "insert letter of choice here" words.&nbsp; Again, just imagine you're talking to Jesus.&nbsp; What words you refrain from using in a prayer?&nbsp; Don't ever use those words.

Example:

One of my tracks I like says: "Start this stuff off."

Now stuff is okay but the actual word in the song says another word for human excrement (is that right?) starting with an "s".

Now in Ireland that word would mean nothing. Not bad at all. In the USA its considered bad by the FCC. Who's right? The Irish or the FCC?

The word in the sentence is not intended to be a curse. Its intended to put more emphasis on what is being said. If you said "stuff" it just plain sounds stupid. But to say the other word, it gives it more umph! It just plain sounds better.

BTW guys. Jesus did say fool. Many people today say that is a bad word.

 

[Dewjunkie]

Originally posted by unworthyone
Example:

One of my tracks I like says: "Start this stuff off."

The word in the sentence is not intended to be a curse. Its intended to put more emphasis on what is being said. If you said "stuff" it just plain sounds stupid. But to say the other word, it gives it more umph! It just plain sounds better.&nbsp;

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Again, I'd say take a look at what's being said.&nbsp; If the point can't get across without the ever so yummy "umph" of human excretion, then perhaps the point isn't worthy of getting across.&nbsp;

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Dewjunkie
&nbsp;Again, I'd say take a look at what's being said.&nbsp; If the point can't get across without the ever so yummy "umph" of human excretion, then perhaps the point isn't worthy of getting across.&nbsp;

There is no point. Its just a sound in music. Its art: an expression in sound.

What is so bad about human excretion?

 

[Rize]

Originally posted by unworthyone
Example:

One of my tracks I like says: "Start this stuff off."

Now stuff is okay but the actual word in the song says another word for human excrement (is that right?) starting with an "s".

Now in Ireland that word would mean nothing. Not bad at all. In the USA its considered bad by the FCC. Who's right? The Irish or the FCC?

The word in the sentence is not intended to be a curse. Its intended to put more emphasis on what is being said. If you said "stuff" it just plain sounds stupid. But to say the other word, it gives it more umph! It just plain sounds better.

BTW guys. Jesus did say fool. Many people today say that is a bad word.

Curse words aren't defined by an organization.&nbsp; They are defined by popular usage.&nbsp; As others pointed out, some words can be used in more than one way.

However, the S word is always a curse in america.&nbsp; You're ignoring the verse I quoted above from&nbsp;Romans 14:15.&nbsp; If those around you consider it a curse, it is.

Now by yourself is another story.&nbsp; However, I would still argue that it falls under abusive speech.

I don't think you've answered our questions above.&nbsp; Would you say words like that while praying to Jesus?

Btw, a fool is someone who has been fooled or someone who is foolish.&nbsp; However, it's not easy to use the word without it sounding like an insult so I would not call anyone a fool (or an idiot or stupid).&nbsp; For these kinds of words, it's all in how it's used.&nbsp; You figure it out.

Also you're the one who started this thread.&nbsp; The fact that you had to ask the question should indicate that something is wrong with the words.

 

[unworthyone]

Originally posted by Rize
Curse words aren't defined by an organization.&nbsp; They are defined by popular usage.&nbsp; As others pointed out, some words can be used in more than one way.

However, the S word is always a curse in america.&nbsp; You're ignoring the verse I quoted above from&nbsp;Romans 14:15.&nbsp; If those around you consider it a curse, it is.

Now by yourself is another story.&nbsp; However, I would still argue that it falls under abusive speech.

Abusive to who? It doesn't offend me.

I don't think you've answered our questions above.&nbsp; Would you say words like that while praying to Jesus?

I don't know. I have no reason to talk about human excrement to God, but honestly, I don't think He'd care what word I used for it.

Btw, a fool is someone who has been fooled or someone who is foolish.&nbsp; However, it's not easy to use the word without it sounding like an insult so I would not call anyone a fool (or an idiot or stupid).&nbsp; For these kinds of words, it's all in how it's used.&nbsp; You figure it out.

Thats the point. Someone, somewhere will find an excuse to get annoyed or offended at anything.

Also you're the one who started this thread.&nbsp; The fact that you had to ask the question should indicate that something is wrong with the words.

I started the thread because I honestly don't know. I just think if we as a society weren't a bunch of pansies there wouldn't be a problem.

 

[ChristDied4U!]

I already posted once on this issue and shared some of my personal experiences w/ this subject...but I came across some scripture last night on this subject when I was reading my Bible that may be of some help to you.&nbsp; It came out of James 3 which talks about the Power of the Tongue.

Verse 2 really kinda stood out to me as I read it...it reads...James 3:2 For in many things we offend all.&nbsp; If&nbsp;any man offend not in word, the same is a&nbsp;perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

What this means to you...and what it means to me might be 2 different things...but what it means to me is that if you control your offensive&nbsp;words...listening of them and speaking of&nbsp;them...then you can have control over the rest of your body...whether it be the maybe&nbsp;lusting of your eyes so to speak or some other body part.

But that is just what I get from reading it...I am no preacher or Bibile scholar by any means...but after reading this it seems to me that offensive words you hear or speak are nothing to be messing around w/ or taken lightly.

I just know from personal&nbsp;experience that if I hear a cuss word or anything close to one...it makes my ears cringe!... &nbsp; Since getting saved I hate to hear a cuss word or anything that sounds like one!... ...they are definitely not pleasant to a Christians ears.&nbsp; Personally I wish there was a way that I did not have to hear another one on t.v...the radio...da streets...da ball courts...or anywhere else...but thats how I feel about them.

Hope this helped somebody out...Peace Out!