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I don't get it, can you expound on that?
It is pretty self explanatory.
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I don't get it, can you expound on that?
If it was I wouldn't have asked. How is naming the second person in the Trinity an answer to the quoted section you provided?
If you don’t want to actually engage in conversation just say so. But I wouldn’t be asking you to clarify your statement if it was self-explanatory.Again, it’s self-explanatory.
God is Love, so His "First" and "Last", (if those terms apply), He is Love, so all His "other thoughts" (manifestations, ect) proceeded out of "Love"... So His first and only thought or thoughts or His primary thought is and has to be Love, and everything else is or proceeds or proceeded out of "Love"...This is mere speculation here but heres my thoughts and you can add in. In Genesis it starts with the saying In the Beginning God created. Now this is the account of the beginning of the creation of our world. What state was God in before he created the world? What was his first thought process if it were to be before the creation account? If Gods will always existed and he never changes then his thoughts were according to his will and he foreknew them when he created the spacetime matrix then he was at both ends of thinking and doing at the same time?
What does it mean to say “God is love” ?God is Love, so His "First" and "Last", (if those terms apply), He is Love, so all His "other thoughts" (manifestations, ect) proceeded out of "Love"... So His first and only thought or thoughts or His primary thought is and has to be Love, and everything else is or proceeds or proceeded out of "Love"...
So, the answer is "Love"...
"Love" was and is always "First", if that term even applies...
One might say "primary" instead...
Everything else proceed and came out of it or from it (Love), it is and is always first or primary, and is His reason for making or creating anything else, or "others" or any others (or anything else)...
It is His primary and perhaps only, "motivations or reasons" or whatever, for anything and everything, and I do mean anything and everything... Is "what drives Him", ect...
God Bless!
Yet none of those things, those attributes, are a reason or motivation or driving force, either for being, or for making, or causing, ect...What does it mean to say “God is love” ?
In terms of attributes, we know God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, omnibenevolent....
He made or did "all of this", and/or has us all going through "all of this", because of Love, and that's about the extent of what I know right now...Yet none of those things, those attributes, are a reason or motivation or driving force, either for being, or for making, or causing, ect...
Love is a reason (motivation, driving force)...
And it has be Godly Love and not what man might think Love is, cause we all know how warped that is sometimes, and it is not "that"...
So, what is it...? Well, your basically asking what the "reason or meaning" of or for "everything" you know, and I mean "everything", it is not easily answered most of the time, let alone shortly or succinctly...?
It is His reason for being, for making, for creating, it is also supposed to "us" and the reason and meaning of our lives as well, our reason for being (also), ect, ect...
So it is not easily answered in detail, at least not by me anyway, as I spend and have spent most of my life so far seeking it out, and have not fully "arrived" yet fully at it yet either... But I seek it anyway...
Maybe others on here can help with this maybe...?
Almost all the "why" questions, especially the big "why" questions, can be answered with this one Word... but, defining that Word, especially in it's full entirety, is a bit more difficult... Or fully understanding it and/or comprehending it in it's entirety... ect, ect... Not so easy or simple sometimes...
It's a Word that most of us just throw around way to flippantly most of the time, and in our cultures without giving it the full thought that it rightly deserves...
I'm trying not to do that (anymore)...
God Bless!
And it or was "first" or was what is/was ever present, or ever existent, always, ect...He made or did "all of this", and/or has us all going through "all of this", because of Love, and that's about the extent of what I know right now...
I have to trust and have faith and believe that is true, because I don't fully understand it yet, but think it's something I can say I know for sure, for sure, but that has to be known by and/or through faith, for the most part, right now...
God Bless!
I would say my post #21 adequately answered both these "points
Yea, I think you're definitely wrong on that. I don't think Jesus is presently agonizing on the cross.
Time wasn't created by God simply because time is not a thing.
This is mere speculation here but heres my thoughts and you can add in. In Genesis it starts with the saying In the Beginning God created. Now this is the account of the beginning of the creation of our world. What state was God in before he created the world? What was his first thought process if it were to be before the creation account? If Gods will always existed and he never changes then his thoughts were according to his will and he foreknew them when he created the spacetime matrix then he was at both ends of thinking and doing at the same time?
If you don’t want to actually engage in conversation just say so. But I wouldn’t be asking you to clarify your statement if it was self-explanatory.
What you said makes no sense.
Well yeah, that would be eternity...
I tend to see wisdom as the Holy Spirit.
I would say my post #21 adequately answered both these "points", so I don't think you probably actually read it.
Yea, I think you're definitely wrong on that. I don't think Jesus is presently agonizing on the cross. He did it, past tense. It's done. I don't think Jesus is presently reigning on a redeemed and restored earth. That hasn't happened yet.
God's character is what is immutable and doesn't change.
Time wasn't created by God simply because time is not a thing. God created all things, time is not a thing. Time just measures change and duration.
This is mere speculation here but heres my thoughts and you can add in. In Genesis it starts with the saying In the Beginning God created. Now this is the account of the beginning of the creation of our world. What state was God in before he created the world? What was his first thought process if it were to be before the creation account? If Gods will always existed and he never changes then his thoughts were according to his will and he foreknew them when he created the spacetime matrix then he was at both ends of thinking and doing at the same time?
Exactly. That was going to be my comment. I'm sure God "thought" plenty of things before the world was created. I'm not sure the word is even accurate considering He created thoughts themselves whenThere is no first anything with God.. He is eternal, having no beginning and no end.. So there is no first thought or last thought
This is mere speculation here but heres my thoughts and you can add in. In Genesis it starts with the saying In the Beginning God created. Now this is the account of the beginning of the creation of our world. What state was God in before he created the world? What was his first thought process if it were to be before the creation account? If Gods will always existed and he never changes then his thoughts were according to his will and he foreknew them when he created the spacetime matrix then he was at both ends of thinking and doing at the same time?