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What Specific Evidence Should Point To Ex Nihilo Creation?

What specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?

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AV1611VET

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Just had a thought strike me:

The absence of evidence is the evidence. You can define nothing without it becoming something when it is absent.
Sounds plausible!
 
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So now the absence of evidence is evidence of absence?
I was thinking more in terms of a trial when the evidence goes missing. You've got nothing to convict the person with because the evidence becomes absent.
 
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Can it be explained in a Twitter post of 280 characters or less?

Let me try:

"Ex nihilo": has nothing, says nothing, proves nothing, means nothing.

...there you go.
 
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Let me try:

"Ex nihilo": has nothing, says nothing, proves nothing, means nothing.

...there you go.
Not bad ... not bad at all.

Now if you could just understand the difference between ex nihilo and ex materia ...
 
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TLK Valentine

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Not bad ... not bad at all.

Now if you could just understand the difference between ex nihilo and ex materia ...

I can understand the difference between "ex nihilo" and "hocus pocus": a special pleading fallacy.

The rest is irrelevant doubletalk.
 
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I can understand the difference between "ex nihilo" and "hocus pocus": a special pleasing fallacy.

The rest is irrelevant doubletalk.
I am particularly fond of fallacies that are pleasing.
 
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I was thinking more in terms of a trial when the evidence goes missing. You've got nothing to convict the person with because the evidence becomes absent.
That's just arguing for a dishonest god who removed evidence. I'm sure AV will object.
 
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That's just arguing for a dishonest god who removed evidence. I'm sure AV will object.
Right.

No evidence generated means no evidence removed.

There's nothing to remove.

Unlike the Flood, where the evidence was cleaned up for sanitary and safety reasons, the creation events didn't produce any.
 
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Norbert L disagrees. He's saying the evidence has gone missing.
Norbert belongs in that percentage that believes: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED.

And in that 100% of those who ever lived, alive today, and will be alive tomorrow, who believe: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD.

In short, Norbert knows how to prioritize.
 
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Right.

No evidence generated means no evidence removed.

There's nothing to remove.

And nobody to remove it.

Unlike the Flood, where the evidence was cleaned up for sanitary and safety reasons, the creation events didn't produce any.

And here I thought you promoted yourself to "God."
Turns out you demoted God to janitor.
 
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Norbert belongs in that percentage that believes: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED.

And in that 100% of those who ever lived, alive today, and will be alive tomorrow, who believe: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD.

In short, Norbert knows how to prioritize.
He appears to be in the minority percentage (with you) who believe: God is dishonest.
 
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