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If we ever find it I'm sure somebody will point it out.What specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?
If we ever find it I'm sure somebody will point it out.
It's interesting that you take the creationist tack (here's the conclusion, what evidence do we need to support it?) rather than the scientific tack (here's the evidence, what conclusion can we draw?).
Science can take a hike.It's interesting that you take the creationist tack (here's the conclusion, what evidence do we need to support it?) rather than the scientific tack (here's the evidence, what conclusion can we draw?).
Who exactly is not being honest here when you conduct a survey under false pretenses when your real objective is to engage in one of your silly science bashing exercises?Whatever works.
Scientists have been interpreting stuff for centuries now.
Let's not suddenly go 404 when someone wants them to apply their newest Johnny Seven technotoy to what happened in 4004 BC.
If they can't rush off to the Sinai and find two million Jews with their updated Skeletonscopes, I'm sure their myopic inventions aren't going to find an entire universe coming into existence out of nothing.
This thread shows they don't even know what to look for, and aren't honest enough to admit it.
I'm not sure why it matters, anyway. It is not essential Christian doctrine, the Bible does not specifically endorse it and it does not reflect universal Christian thinking on the subject.Who exactly is not being honest here when you conduct a survey under false pretenses when your real objective is to engage in one of your silly science bashing exercises?
As I explained in post #3 and in this post current thinking does not lend itself to the creation of a universe ex nihilo.
A survey of cosmologists including those with non mainstream models such as eternal inflation, conformal cyclic cosmology or brane cosmology would reveal the majority will state the universe is not created ex nihilo.
What specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?
In essence the Big Bang theory is about the evolution of the universe not its creation so there is no overlap between the two.I'm not sure why it matters, anyway. It is not essential Christian doctrine, the Bible does not specifically endorse it and it does not reflect universal Christian thinking on the subject.
If the poster did a bit of research he would know cosmologists have very little understanding of what happened at the original Big Bang (as opposed to the Hot Big Bang which occurred after the inflation era) as the laws of physics breakdown at the Planck scale which they are honest enough to admit contrary to the accusations."This thread shows they don't even know what to look for, and aren't honest enough to admit it."
I totally agree.There can be no evidence for nothing.
Let me remind you why I said science can take a hike:public hermit said:So, no, science does not need to take a hike; science is secure in its domain.
It's interesting that you take the creationist tack (here's the conclusion, what evidence do we need to support it?) rather than the scientific tack (here's the evidence, what conclusion can we draw?).
I'm second to none here saying there is no evidence for the creation events.Science can take a hike.
There can be no evidence for nothing. Ex nihilo is an article of faith. Evidence, by its nature, pertains to something observable. Since something is not nothing, there can be no evidence for creation ex nihilo.
You miss the point (as usual). Why are you drawing a conclusion and then asking for non-existent evidence to support it? There is already plenty of evidence in existence, so why not analyse it and see what conclusion you could reasonably draw from it?So why in the world (pun intended) would I contradict myself and take the "scientific tack"?
ex nihilo nihil fitWhat specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?
If we ever find it I'm sure somebody will point it out.
It's interesting that you take the creationist tack (here's the conclusion, what evidence do we need to support it?) rather than the scientific tack (here's the evidence, what conclusion can we draw?).
This is more theological than scientific IMO.What specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?
God himself is incomprehensibleSo true.
Nothing (i.e., nihilo) is so hard to comprehend.
God himself is incomprehensible
That's true. There are so many interpretations of scripture, it's impossible to mention them all.That's funny -- you can't swing a stick in this country without hitting someone who has a detailed list of what He likes, dislikes, loves, hates, demands, forbids....
I disagree.There can be no evidence for nothing. Ex nihilo is an article of faith.
Just had a thought strike me:What specific evidence should we expect to see, if the universe was created ex nihilo?
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