What part of "We're not under the law" dont you understand?

[Cribstyl]

It seems questionable how people isolate text from Pauls lessons to make their case for being under the ten commandment.

Rom 5 and 6 teaches clearly the importance of why Jesus died to erase what Adam did to humanity.

Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
Rom 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
Rom 5:4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope;
Rom 5:5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Rom 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath {of God} through Him.
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Rom 5:11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Rom 5:13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.
Rom 5:16 The gift is not like {that which came} through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment {arose} from one {transgression} resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift {arose} from many transgressions resulting in justification.
Rom 5:17 For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
Rom 5:19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Rom 5:20 The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
Rom 5:21 so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ​

 

[Cribstyl]

Rom 6:1What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? ​

Rom 6:2May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? ​

Rom 6:3Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? ​

Rom 6:4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. ​

Rom 6:5For if we have become united with {Him} in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be {in the likeness} of His resurrection, ​

Rom 6:6knowing this, that our old self was crucified with {Him,} in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
Rom 6:7for he who has died is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
Rom 6:9knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him.
Rom 6:10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Rom 6:11Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
Rom 6:13and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin {as} instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members {as} instruments of righteousness to God.
Rom 6:14For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
Rom 6:15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!
Rom 6:16Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone {as} slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
Rom 6:17But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed,
Rom 6:18and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
Rom 6:19I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in {further} lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification.
Rom 6:20For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
Rom 6:21Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death.
Rom 6:22But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life.
Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. ​

 

[visionary]

Why is it so hard to understand... that the condemnation and the penalty for sins is what part of the law we are no longer under... and that part is the part where grace is applied

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Why is it so hard to understand... that the condemnation and the penalty for sins is what part of the law we are no longer under... and that part is the part where grace is applied

show me where grace, dose away with obediance? Jesus said you are my disciples IF you do what I command.

 

[visionary]

show me where grace, dose away with obediance? Jesus said you are my disciples IF you do what I command.

Show me where we have to make a sacrifice for our sins.. after all Christ has already completed by fulfilling that part... the parchment that Moses wrote on the side of the ark is fulfilled... done away by His Works.. leaving us with the foundational Ten Commandments, and our faith in Yeshua and by His grace given a robe of His Righteousness in the place of our filthy rags..

 

[Byfaithalone1]

show me where grace, dose away with obediance? Jesus said you are my disciples IF you do what I command.

Ice, do you observe all of the Lord's convocations listed in Leviticus 23, or only some of them? If only some, which?

BFA

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Show me where we have to make a sacrifice for our sins.. after all Christ has already completed by fulfilling that part... the parchment that Moses wrote on the side of the ark is fulfilled... done away by His Works.. leaving us with the foundational Ten Commandments, and our faith in Yeshua and by His grace given a robe of His Righteousness in the place of our filthy rags..

Your hypothesis does not factor in the reality that the ten commandments were included in the parchment that was on the side of the ark. As a point of fact, the Bible never differentiates between old covenant laws, indicating that some were fulfilled at the cross and that others remain.

BFA

 

[visionary]

Your hypothesis does not factor in the reality that the ten commandments were included in the parchment that was on the side of the ark.

BFA

The Ten were written on stone and are under the mercy seat. The parchment is written by Moses and is on the side of the ark and gets into the specifics of how the Jews were to administer and handle the day to day situations of obedience to those laws.. that part was temporary until Christ showed up and fulfilled those requirements that were written on the parchment..

aka the Lamb of God.. found on parchment.. not in the Ten Commandments.
aka the High Priest... found in the parchment.. not in the Ten Commandments.

And anything else you find Yeshua fulfilling... for as Christ said...

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So understand, while Christ has fulfilled His obligation on the parchment to be a sacrifice for sin, and now has taken up the mantle of High Priest in the Heavenly Sanctuary,... even He said "til heaven and earth pass".. will not happen "till all be fulfilled" which means there is more to come.

In the mean time, that which is not fulfilled in still in force. Just as the spring feasts were fulfilled in the first coming, so also will the fall feasts be fulfilled in the second coming.

So you may find the ten commandments discussed in the parchment, but they were set apart, by God's own finger writting them on stone. He later inspired Paul to say..

2 Corinthians 3:3
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

The Ten were written on stone and are under the mercy seat. The parchment is written by Moses and is on the side of the ark and gets into the specifics of how the Jews were to administer and handle the day to day situations of obedience to those laws.. that part was temporary until Christ showed up and fulfilled those requirements that were written on the parchment..

aka the Lamb of God.. found on parchment.. not in the Ten Commandments.
aka the High Priest... found in the parchment.. not in the Ten Commandments.

And anything else you find Yeshua fulfilling... for as Christ said...

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So understand, while Christ has fulfilled His obligation on the parchment to be a sacrifice for sin, and now has taken up the mantle of High Priest in the Heavenly Sanctuary,... even He said "til heaven and earth pass".. will not happen "till all be fulfilled" which means there is more to come.

In the mean time, that which is not fulfilled in still in force. Just as the spring feasts were fulfilled in the first coming, so also will the fall feasts be fulfilled in the second coming.

So you may find the ten commandments discussed in the parchment, but they were set apart, by God's own finger writting them on stone. He later inspired Paul to say..

2 Corinthians 3:3
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

You still have not addressed the reality that the ten commandments were included in the parchment that was on the side of the ark. In fact, the law that was placed on the side of the ark included all of the laws described in the book of Deuteronomy.

There is no Biblical basis for dividing the old covenant laws into categories.

You cited 2 Corinthians 3 without noting that this very chapter establishes that the letters engraved on tables of stone were fading even during the days of Paul. In fact, they were the ministry that brings death.

BFA

 

[Cribstyl]

Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
Rom 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;
Rom 5:4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope;
Rom 5:5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Rom 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath {of God} through Him.
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. ​

Rather than extracting keywords and adding commentary as some teachers do, the book of Romans are teachings about the condition we find ourselves before and after we repent of sins and accept Jesus Christ into our hearts.​

Where is the pressure to keep the 10 commandment?
Where is the infamous sabbath commandment in this Epistles??
These text teach the Christian how to live by faith, now that you're justified by faith.
How many times do we find "we're not under the law??"
Why are we divorced from the law and married to Jesus?​

Explanations should be subjected to understand of scriptures.


CRIB

 

[Cribstyl]

Rom 5:11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Rom 5:13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.
Rom 5:16 The gift is not like {that which came} through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment {arose} from one {transgression} resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift {arose} from many transgressions resulting in justification.
Rom 5:17 For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
Rom 5:19 For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Rom 5:20The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
Rom 5:21 so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
__________________ COMMENTARY________________________________
Here in these lessons Paul explains about the minute details concerning "sin and the law" from the creation of mankind. True or false?
False teachers ignor these truths and hold on to 1 isolated text from 1Jo 3:4 in which John is not considering "from creation" in his dialog. It's most likely that John was referencing, "sin against the law" after it was given to Moses.


Rom 5:12 The wisdom of these words reveals to us the decree of God to Adam was "the wages sin is death, for breaking the commandment I gave to you. Gen 2:17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


Rom 5:13 How can anyone make you believe that law was in the world before sin when text explains; for until the Law sin was in the world,?

If you dont believe the text is saying "until the law was given to Moses" why not prove which prophet or angel gave God's laws to what people?
Prove what people besides Abrahams descendant are whom God revealed Himself to? Would God be silent about laws to govern all humanity???? Laws by nature are spoken or given to govern a people.

When Moses arrived at the promiseland and taught the people "the law" he asked;Deu 4:8And what nation [is there so] great, that hath statutes and judgments [so] righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

Moses asked the people to search from creation for a great event as how God visited them.Deu 4:32For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and [ask] from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been [any such thing] as this great thing [is], or hath been heard like it?

If the law was given before then, the answers to those question would have been another nation than the Children of Israel.

Rom 5:14Paul reenforce that sin was in the world before the law was ever given to mankind, by explaining that death reigned for sin from Adam to Moses for those who did not have a direct commandment like Adam. This proves that sin does not need a law.

Man was created in the image of God..Holy and righteous, whenever we miss that mark sin comes forth. God explained to Cain how sin comes out out of man rather than saying "thou shalt not kill".

God sent a flood to destroy unrighteousness of mankind and did not say..."they broke my law or commandments." The text in Genesis leads us to know that man turned evil and wicked. Not one word about them breaking law or commandments. The texts show how man turn from the image of their creator. God righteous anger brought death to all humanity accept Noah (and family). The sins that led men to death are written for our understanding. It's shameful how commentary can add lies to the word of God.


Rom 5:20Now Paul tells us the law came in Moses day so that sinful acts would be label as illegal and worthy of death so that God grace and mercy would appear as great gifts from God.


CRIB

 

[visionary]

Rom 5:20Now Paul tells us the law came in Moses day so that sinful acts would be label as illegal and worhty of death so that God grace and mercy would appear as great gifts from God.


CRIB

and you do not think this is true today?

 

[Byfaithalone1]

and you do not think this is true today?

Crib's point--if I've correctly understood it--is that sin has existed since Adam and Eve and has existed even in the absence of a codified system of law.

BFA

 

[Cribstyl]

and you do not think this is true today?

Crib's point--if I've correctly understood it--is that sin has existed since Adam and Eve and has existed even in the absence of a codified system of law.

BFA

BF1

Viz, My OP explains it #2
Romans 6 teaches us what is true today..... reiterating "we're not under the law." These lessons is covered chapter after chapter.

The obvious fact is how poeple isolate 1 bite ( verse) from it's context and reject everythingelse.

CRIB

 

[Cribstyl]

Why is it so hard to understand... that the condemnation and the penalty for sins is what part of the law we are no longer under... and that part is the part where grace is applied

About your response:
#1. What text(s) are you explaining in simple terms?...... I dont see where you're getting or giving an understanding.
#2. When does "we're not under the law means we're not under part of the law"?
#3 Where is it written that we're not under the penalty for sin???


CRIB

 

[Cribstyl]

Romans 8


1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Comments


Verse 1 of The text says, the reason why Christians are not condemn is because they're are Not walking in the flesh but are walking in the spirit.

Understanding of the texts say; a)There is a place called; "in the flesh." b)There is also a place called; "in the spirit." c) Christian who are walking in the spirit are not under condemnation.
Verse 2 continues and say... a)There is a law of the spirit b) there is a law of sin and death. c) Having life in Christ make me free from the law of sin and death.
The text (Rom8:2) does not say I am free from sin or free from death, it says that I am free from the law, of sin and death.

If Christian are free from the law of sin&death, why do some people declare that only the ceromonial part of the law is done away with?

Verse 3 continues and say... what the law could not do...( Is the law of sin and death is being called "the law"? What reason should I believe that this text is not talking about all the commandments given to Moses?


CRIB

 

[visionary]

Just because the law was not "codiefied " does not mean it never existed before. As far as God is concerned..

Isaiah 24:5
The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.


Psalm 119
1Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

2Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.

3They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

4Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.

5O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!

6Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.

7I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.

8I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.

9Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.

10With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.

11Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

12Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes.

13With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth.

14I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches.

15I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.

16I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.

17Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word.

18Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.

19I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.

20My soul breaketh for the longing that it hath unto thy judgments at all times.

21Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

22Remove from me reproach and contempt; for I have kept thy testimonies.

23Princes also did sit and speak against me: but thy servant did meditate in thy statutes.

24Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counselors.

25My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word.

26I have declared my ways, and thou heardest me: teach me thy statutes.

27Make me to understand the way of thy precepts: so shall I talk of thy wondrous works.

28My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word.

29Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously.

30I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.

31I have stuck unto thy testimonies: O LORD, put me not to shame.

32I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart.

33Teach me, O LORD, the way of thy statutes; and I shall keep it unto the end.

34Give me understanding, and I shall keep thy law; yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart.

35Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight.

36Incline my heart unto thy testimonies, and not to covetousness.

37Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way.

38Stablish thy word unto thy servant, who is devoted to thy fear.

39Turn away my reproach which I fear: for thy judgments are good.

40Behold, I have longed after thy precepts: quicken me in thy righteousness.

41Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, even thy salvation, according to thy word.

42So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word.

43And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments.

44So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.

45And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

46I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed.

47And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved.

48My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes.

49Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope.

50This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.

51The proud have had me greatly in derision: yet have I not declined from thy law.

52I remembered thy judgments of old, O LORD; and have comforted myself.

53Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.

54Thy statutes have been my songs in the house of my pilgrimage.

55I have remembered thy name, O LORD, in the night, and have kept thy law.

56This I had, because I kept thy precepts.

57Thou art my portion, O LORD: I have said that I would keep thy words.

58I intreated thy favour with my whole heart: be merciful unto me according to thy word.

59I thought on my ways, and turned my feet unto thy testimonies.

60I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments.

61The bands of the wicked have robbed me: but I have not forgotten thy law.

62At midnight I will rise to give thanks unto thee because of thy righteous judgments.

63I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts.

64The earth, O LORD, is full of thy mercy: teach me thy statutes.

65Thou hast dealt well with thy servant, O LORD, according unto thy word.

66Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.

67Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

68Thou art good, and doest good; teach me thy statutes.

69The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.

70Their heart is as fat as grease; but I delight in thy law.

71It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

72The law of thy mouth is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver.

73Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments.

74They that fear thee will be glad when they see me; because I have hoped in thy word.

75I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.

76Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant.

77Let thy tender mercies come unto me, that I may live: for thy law is my delight.

78Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.

79Let those that fear thee turn unto me, and those that have known thy testimonies.

80Let my heart be sound in thy statutes; that I be not ashamed.

81My soul fainteth for thy salvation: but I hope in thy word.

82Mine eyes fail for thy word, saying, When wilt thou comfort me?

83For I am become like a bottle in the smoke; yet do I not forget thy statutes.

84How many are the days of thy servant? when wilt thou execute judgment on them that persecute me?

85The proud have digged pits for me, which are not after thy law.

86All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help thou me.

87They had almost consumed me upon earth; but I forsook not thy precepts.

88Quicken me after thy lovingkindness; so shall I keep the testimony of thy mouth.

89For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

90Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.

91They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants.

92Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction.

93I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me.

94I am thine, save me: for I have sought thy precepts.

95The wicked have waited for me to destroy me: but I will consider thy testimonies.

96I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad.

97O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day.

98Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.

99I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.

100I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

101I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word.

102I have not departed from thy judgments: for thou hast taught me.

103How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!

104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

106I have sworn, and I will perform it, that I will keep thy righteous judgments.

107I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word.

108Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O LORD, and teach me thy judgments.

109My soul is continually in my hand: yet do I not forget thy law.

110The wicked have laid a snare for me: yet I erred not from thy precepts.

111Thy testimonies have I taken as an heritage for ever: for they are the rejoicing of my heart.

112I have inclined mine heart to perform thy statutes alway, even unto the end.

113I hate vain thoughts: but thy law do I love.

114Thou art my hiding place and my shield: I hope in thy word.

115Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God.

116Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope.

117Hold thou me up, and I shall be safe: and I will have respect unto thy statutes continually.

118Thou hast trodden down all them that err from thy statutes: for their deceit is falsehood.

119Thou puttest away all the wicked of the earth like dross: therefore I love thy testimonies.

120My flesh trembleth for fear of thee; and I am afraid of thy judgments.

121I have done judgment and justice: leave me not to mine oppressors.

122Be surety for thy servant for good: let not the proud oppress me.

123Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word of thy righteousness.

124Deal with thy servant according unto thy mercy, and teach me thy statutes.

125I am thy servant; give me understanding, that I may know thy testimonies.

126It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law.

127Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.

128Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way.

129Thy testimonies are wonderful: therefore doth my soul keep them.

130The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

131I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for thy commandments.

132Look thou upon me, and be merciful unto me, as thou usest to do unto those that love thy name.

133Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.

134Deliver me from the oppression of man: so will I keep thy precepts.

135Make thy face to shine upon thy servant; and teach me thy statutes.

136Rivers of waters run down mine eyes, because they keep not thy law.

137Righteous art thou, O LORD, and upright are thy judgments.

138Thy testimonies that thou hast commanded are righteous and very faithful.

139My zeal hath consumed me, because mine enemies have forgotten thy words.

140Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.

141I am small and despised: yet do not I forget thy precepts.

142Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

143Trouble and anguish have taken hold on me: yet thy commandments are my delights.

144The righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.

145I cried with my whole heart; hear me, O LORD: I will keep thy statutes.

146I cried unto thee; save me, and I shall keep thy testimonies.

147I prevented the dawning of the morning, and cried: I hoped in thy word.

148Mine eyes prevent the night watches, that I might meditate in thy word.

149Hear my voice according unto thy lovingkindness: O LORD, quicken me according to thy judgment.

150They draw nigh that follow after mischief: they are far from thy law.

151Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

152Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

153Consider mine affliction, and deliver me: for I do not forget thy law.

154Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word.

155Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

156Great are thy tender mercies, O LORD: quicken me according to thy judgments.

157Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies.

158I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

159Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy lovingkindness.

160Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

161Princes have persecuted me without a cause: but my heart standeth in awe of thy word.

162I rejoice at thy word, as one that findeth great spoil.

163I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love.

164Seven times a day do I praise thee because of thy righteous judgments.

165Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

166LORD, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.

167My soul hath kept thy testimonies; and I love them exceedingly.

168I have kept thy precepts and thy testimonies: for all my ways are before thee.

169Let my cry come near before thee, O LORD: give me understanding according to thy word.

170Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word.

171My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.

172My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

173Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.

174I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight.

175Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.

176I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Just because the law was not "codiefied " does not mean it never existed before. As far as God is concerned....

Have you concluded that Deuteronomy 5:1-5 and Galatians 3:15-20 are in error?

God has always existed. The mind of God has always existed. The righteousness of God has always existed. The law was added.

BFA

 

[Cribstyl]

Just because the law was not "codiefied " does not mean it never existed before. As far as God is concerned..

Isaiah 24:5
The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

How does all these texts agree with your comments?
Everlasting does not mean eternal.....
Some of God's covenants are considered as everlasting. The fact that we see the initiation of these convenants prove that they did not preexist before the were given.Gen 9:16 Gen 17:7 Gen 17:13

Can you explain why circumcision was said by God to be an eternal covenant but is now consider not an issue in salvation?


CRIB

 

[visionary]

Have you concluded that Deuteronomy 5:1-5 and Galatians 3:15-20 are in error?

God has always existed. The mind of God has always existed. The righteousness of God has always existed. The law was added.

BFA

You have it right.. except the law existed just as His Righteousness which is based upon the Law always existed.