Let me clarify.. the eternal Law that always existed is the TEN...
on the subject of circumcision... is not our heart to be circumcised?
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Let me clarify.. the eternal Law that always existed is the TEN...How does all these texts agree with your comments?
Everlasting does not mean eternal.....
Some of God's covenants are considered as everlasting. The fact that we see the initiation of these convenants prove that they did not preexist before the were given.Gen 9:16 Gen 17:7 Gen 17:13
Can you explain why circumcision was said by God to be an eternal covenant but is now consider not an issue in salvation?
CRIB
Let me clarify.. the eternal Law that always existed is the TEN...
on the subject of circumcision... is not our heart to be circumcised?
I heard it once said the Lord spoke the TEN and wrote them in stone... and the rest is commentary.You still have not addressed the reality that the ten commandments were included in the parchment that was on the side of the ark. In fact, the law that was placed on the side of the ark included all of the laws described in the book of Deuteronomy.
There is no Biblical basis for dividing the old covenant laws into categories.
You cited 2 Corinthians 3 without noting that this very chapter establishes that the letters engraved on tables of stone were fading even during the days of Paul. In fact, they were the ministry that brings death.
BFA
I heard it once said the Lord spoke the TEN and wrote them in stone... and the rest is commentary.
It is amazing how some hold Paul's commentaries [found in the letters] to hold more weight that the very clear position Yeshua took.
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
It could be .. if my heart is holding the coin more valuable than the things of earth... He will have to make a call on that portion in my heart.. but the first is still applicable to all..you want to have life.. keep the commandments.This assumes that Jesus and Paul were at odds with one another. I have found Jesus and Paul to be in harmony with one another.
He also told the man to go and sell everything he had. Does that command apply to you? If not, why not?
BFA
It is amazing how some hold Paul's commentaries [found in the letters] to hold more weight that the very clear position Yeshua took.
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
God has never changed.. there has always been provision for the gentiles...The law for the Jews applies to the gentiles too... ONE LAWWhat did you expect Him to tell Jews before He died on the cross?
If it is a fact that nonJews were outsiders until the door of opportunity opened, why are you posting text as if Gentiles were one with the Jews who were under the law?Mar 7:27But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast [it] unto the dogs.
Gentiles were not in covenant with God until Peter and Paul first tell us that God is now accepting them as His children.
Why should we continue as if He never died and Moses is our prophet?
Jesus put in Paul spirit doctrines that Saul opposed 100% before His conversion.
Peter, James and John made it their duty to teach us what we know as Christ's commandments.
These commandment are not the ten commandments....get over it.
The biggest fact ignored is that faith in Jesus does not required the sabbath as a sign.
The sabbath can be kept between a man and God, but it's not required according to doctrines found in the NT.
CRIB
God has never changed.. there has always been provision for the gentiles...The law for the Jews applies to the gentiles too... ONE LAW
Leviticus 24:22
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
Numbers 15:16
One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Numbers 15:29
Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
Do you think this is a condition for God's love? If not, are you saying God loves us more when we do this?
Let's try this one: God loves.
OK.. God tested the gentiles and the Jews out in the wilderness of sin.. How did He prove that they love HIM?Do you think this is a condition for God's love? If not, are you saying God loves us more when we do this?
Let's try this one: God loves.
Do you think this is a condition for God's love? If not, are you saying God loves us more when we do this?
Let's try this one: God loves.
First of all......one law for the home born and one law for the strangers are not the same law.God has never changed.. there has always been provision for the gentiles...The law for the Jews applies to the gentiles too... ONE LAW
Leviticus 24:22
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
Numbers 15:16
One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Numbers 15:29
Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
While the Israelites have failed their commission to teach all nations... does not excuse all nations. Nineveh was called to repentence, and they knew what sins they were, they knew they were sinning against the God of Israel. They were gentiles.First of all......one law for the home born and one law for the strangers are not the same law.
You know that these text are talking about Gentiles as they interact with the COI. If you know that is true, why do you use these text as if God sent prophets to teach the law to people other than the Children of Israel?
The COI were to be a set apart people so it's clear why strangers had to be circumcised and follow commandments.
We often confuse the forms love moves through, with love. An action of love is love expressing through the physical body. An emotion of love is love expressing through the emotional body. A thought of love is love expressing through the mental body. In this way, we can understand love much like consciousness - in the cosmological sense of the word.When God calls us to love our enemies do you think this is the same personal and emotional love we have for our children?
While the Israelites have failed their commission to teach all nations... does not excuse all nations. Nineveh was called to repentence, and they knew what sins they were, they knew they were sinning against the God of Israel. They were gentiles.
Nineveh knew the true God. They were not like Egypt who were in open definance, saying that they did not know this God. Knowing God is knowing what is required to worship and honor and show obedience to His requirements.It this is true, it is interesting to note that Ninevah knew sin even though Ninevah was not a recipient of the law. Further evidence that sin exists even in the absence of law.
BFA
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