what messianic prophecies where not fulfilled by jesus?

[dfw69]

I refer to my President analogy.

its extremly hard to win a jew to the lord...it would take a jew to convince a jew....an perhaps some miracle....and even then he may not concede...lol...

 

[LoAmmi]

its extremly hard to win a jew to the lord...it would take a jew to convince a jew....an perhaps some miracle....and even then he may not concede...lol...

Some of the worst enemies of the Jewish people have been Jews. Messianics have had no luck in "winning" me because I know the scriptures they try to use and am not caught off guard often. Further, I know the Torah says to keep the Torah throughout every generation and that nobody is to add to the Torah. "Freeing" us from the Torah is adding to it, in my opinion.

 

[dfw69]

Some of the worst enemies of the Jewish people have been Jews. Messianics have had no luck in "winning" me because I know the scriptures they try to use and am not caught off guard often. Further, I know the Torah says to keep the Torah throughout every generation and that nobody is to add to the Torah. "Freeing" us from the Torah is adding to it, in my opinion.

Well i once had a heart for israel...i wanted to live in israel to preach the gospel at one time....if all jews are as you....i would have been eaten alive....no chance in hell....thank god he did not send me there.....lol

 

[LoAmmi]

Well i once had a heart for israel...i wanted to live in israel to preach the gospel at one time....if all jews are as you....i would have been eaten alive....no chance in hell....thank god he did not send me there.....lol

We have been resistant for 2000 years, even when swords were held to us and said kiss the cross or kiss the sword. We have died for our faith many times over.

 

[dfw69]

We have been resistant for 2000 years, even when swords were held to us and said kiss the cross or kiss the sword. We have died for our faith many times over.

well loammi i know i dont know everything or have all the answers...but i pray the truth be told and no man decieved...and i wait for the end oof this world...and the beginning of jesus reign...he will be just and fair and truthful...peace to you brother

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by dfw69 Well i once had a heart for israel...i wanted to live in israel to preach the gospel at one time....if all jews are as you....i would have been eaten alive....no chance in hell....thank god he did not send me there.....lol

We have been resistant for 2000 years, even when swords were held to us and said kiss the cross or kiss the sword. We have died for our faith many times over.

I have heard bullet proof vests are available upon request after getting off the plane in Israel


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[someguy14]

Further, I know the Torah says to keep the Torah throughout every generation and that nobody is to add to the Torah. "Freeing" us from the Torah is adding to it, in my opinion.

The Torah is good. All of The Holy Scriptures are good. God is very merciful and patient with all of His own.

 

[someguy14]

its extremly hard to win a jew to the lord...it would take a jew to convince a jew....an perhaps some miracle....and even then he may not concede...lol...

Sometimes a dream friend.

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[someguy14]

God brings us all together. Jesus brings to God. In at least this, we can say that Jesus truely loved God The Father with all His heart. Thank You God, my best friend. Psalm 73:25

I love You God!


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[Jonathan95]

There are no prophecies that he haven't fulfilled. But there are some that are yet to be fulfilled.

 

[dfw69]

There are no prophecies that he haven't fulfilled. But there are some that are yet to be fulfilled.

yes jonathan....jesus will fulfill all the messianic prophecies and one day convince israel and israel will recieve the new covenant....then the kingdom of heaven will be realized.....

 

[LoAmmi]

There are no prophecies that he haven't fulfilled. But there are some that are yet to be fulfilled.

These two statements contradict each other.

 

[dfw69]

These two statements contradict each other.

Lol yes they do

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Jonathan95 There are no prophecies that he haven't fulfilled. But there are some that are yet to be fulfilled.

These two statements contradict each other.

Not only that, but his grammar is also a little off base


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[dfw69]

Not only that, but his grammar is also a little off base


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lol...hav u seen my gramma...im surprise people undetstand me...im on my cell alot...and this keypad is small...

 

[LoAmmi]

lol...hav u seen my gramma...im surprise people undetstand me...im on my cell alot...and this keypad is small...

I ended up having to re-read the first statement there. For some reason, the first thing I read was "have you seen may grandma". LOL

I never comment on grammar. As long as I can understand what people are trying to say, I do not comment.

 

[dfw69]

I ended up having to re-read the first statement there. For some reason, the first thing I read was "have you seen may grandma". LOL

I never comment on grammar. As long as I can understand what people are trying to say, I do not comment.

yeah let me know if you see my grandma

 

[louisealex]

This is a fascinating subject.
I think one quote that the Jewish people seem to have overlooked a little hastily is that they will look with their hearts.
LOVE
LOVE
LOVE
Is that not the only message of Jesus? Especially in the four gospels that the romans chose to be the only gospels. Seems to me that all of the other ones are being fulfilled quite quickly. The weapons one will fall into place.
There is only one God, so we have to presume that it is the same God as I choose to worship even though I be neither Jewish nor Christian Worshipping the christian god is worshoping the Israeli god is it not? Worshipping the Islamic God s also worshiping the Jewish god is it not?
As for the desire for immediacy of fulfilling the prophecies, I find it very odd that anyone would think a day would be a day for god. God made the sun, he does not spin around it and therfore trapped in our dimension of time. He made time > )

 

[LoAmmi]

This is a fascinating subject.
I think one quote that the Jewish people seem to have overlooked a little hastily is that they will look with their hearts.
LOVE
LOVE
LOVE
Is that not the only message of Jesus? Especially in the four gospels that the romans chose to be the only gospels. Seems to me that all of the other ones are being fulfilled quite quickly. The weapons one will fall into place.

The issue at hand is not if Jesus' message was good or kind or anything else like that. The message of love is not one that is outside of Judaism. We have our own people who speak of loving others and being kind.
The issue is if Jesus meets the qualifications to be the Messiah, a specific person that is foretold in prophecy. Speaking of love is not a qualification.

There is only one God, so we have to presume that it is the same God as I choose to worship even though I be neither Jewish nor Christian Worshipping the christian god is worshoping the Israeli god is it not? Worshipping the Islamic God s also worshiping the Jewish god is it not?

I have no problem with Christians and Muslims worshiping the same being. I never would say differently.

As for the desire for immediacy of fulfilling the prophecies, I find it very odd that anyone would think a day would be a day for god. God made the sun, he does not spin around it and therfore trapped in our dimension of time. He made time > )

We have no timetable for the events to occur. To be honest, Christians have the timetable of "soon" for whatever that is worth.

Again, the question is not "is it happening now?" the question is if Jesus meets the qualifications to be the Messiah. Weighed by the measure Judaism uses, namely the all the prophecies are fulfilled by the Messiah, Jesus is found lacking those qualifications. Christians say he will return and finish the job. If he does, I will accept him as the Messiah. Until then I am skeptical.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Christians say [Jesus] will return and finish the job. If he does, I will accept him as the Messiah. Until then I am skeptical.

Then you might want to look into the Baha'i Faith (another Abrahamic religion, BTW) given that it teaches that the Christ Spirit already returned about a century and a half ago with the new name both the Jewish and Christian scriptures promised!

Peace,

Bruce