Eventually. I do not think I'm wicked enough to warrant destruction or anything like that.
You believe that. I do not. I do not need to give credit.
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what messianic prophecies where not fulfilled by jesus?
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You believe that. I do not. I do not need to give credit.
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well...you reap what you sow....if you love..forgive show mercy judge not condemn not .....i believe god wil give you what you have sown naturally......but if you have committed sins worthy of death....where is your covering?.....if jesus blood is not acepted by your unbelief....personally i think you take a hugh risk if indeed jesus was the promised messiah....because as the lambs blood protected israel when death passed over.....jesus blood protects thoughs that have faith in him....and eternal death is passed over them who believed....but i know you dont believe....just saying.....
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I do not require covering. I repent and I have been told that HaShem will remember my sin no more. If I need covering, HaShem is a liar and, if so, how could I trust Him?
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Love and peace is the ONLY foundation-to build....
No they wern't born to death as they were at one with God and the spirit. But they embraced there own will through the fact that they realized that they were creative beings. What they didn't realize was that their SELF created actions brought about judgement from God because it was sinful, (initially sexual relations with an absence of love) hence the absence of Eden and a fallen world, where man's will stood as the collective standard and anybody born to that standard was to see the world before them and die to the spirit. But if they followed God's word (there intuitive nature) they would find their way home. Slow to learn God sent messengers, living examples to show the way, but still we don't see. So the sin was commited that caused thier spirtual death, detached from God.
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i see your point.......but what scripture are you referig to that god forgives and remembers no more?.....is it within the old covenant or the new covenant?
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It was said by Solomon when he dedicated the Temple. I cannot answer your second question as it does not exist in my world.
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Jeremiah says such, however he states that it will be a time when nobody needs to tell anybody else about HaShem, because everybody will no. Without that happening, the covenant he mentions cannot be in place.
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34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying , Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
So... that has to happen
None of these mean anything to me.
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here jer says sins are forgiven within the new covenant....and here after the new covenat he promises to remember no more...
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I think it is a fantasy world where you think it's as simple as that. The understanding of hell is a really modern concept. The word hell originally came from the Saxon word hillion 'to cover up' From that we get hillion as an old English thatcher and we get heal from this as well (to cover up a wound) also helmet.
In Cornwall a thatcher is called a healer.
Thus the translation of the Hebrew sheol as hell in KJV time is a good one.
I am not suggesting that there is no "hell" I believe we need to take the NT claims seriously. But to think anyone has the definition of this is in the fantasy.
Jesus came to fulfill the law not to change it and our understand needs to still start with the OT, we need to balance our understanding of the eternal flame/lake of fire with:
"The candle of the wicked shall be PUT OUT" (Prov. 24:20).
"The wicked is reserved unto the day of DESTRUCTION" (Job 21:30)
"As wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked PERISH at the presence of God" (Psalm 68:2).
"For yet a little while and the wicked SHALL NOT BE" (Psalm 37:10).
"He is like the beasts that PERISH" (Psalm 50:12).
"Let the sinners be consumed out of the land, and let the wicked BE NO MORE" (Psalm 104:35).
"They shall be AS THOUGH THEY HAD NOT BEEN" (Obadiah 16).
"They shall be AS NOTHING" (Isa. 41:11).
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Yes, but what does he say will be the hallmark of that time? The Law is to be written on Israel's hearts so that they keep it.
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what law?.....it could very well be the law of christ.....not the torah
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Back that up based upon what Jeremiah says.
Also, when is it going to happen that all know HaShem, from the least of them to the greatest?
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What does that mean to you..that jesus came to fulfill law not change it?
i dont have the def of hell...i just see hell as describe inn the new trstament
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all i can say is jer scripture is not fulfilled....the covenant is made...but it is rejected by israel as a whole...one day israel will accept the terms of the new covenant
.....and be healed....when jesus returns....for they will learn to cry out blessed is he that comes in the name of the lord........
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A covenant can only exist if both sides agree to it like a contract. That is why on Sinai the Jewish people agree to the covenant as a whole. It was not HaShem imposing it on the Jewish people. They agreed to take it and keep it throughout all generations.
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