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What is your view of Christmas...

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If you're going to be confrontational, you're in the wrong forum. You are a guest here, it would behoove you to act properly, as a guest.

What?


I acknowledge the fact that it is based off of a pagan holiday, due to the expansion of the Christian faith.

I still celebrate it, due to the enigma that is Jesus Christ's actual birth day.

That is not being confrontational.
 
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Stop it, STOP IT! That is enough of your Anti-Jewish rhetoric in this forum.

Take it somewhere else!

That has nothing what- so- EVER to do with the topic, you just are inserting your hatred about Jews wherever you can and this is not the place.

Keep your 'five brothers', Lazarus, and Luke 16 thoughts to yourself, they aren't welcome here!
 
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I didn't know you were Jewish LLOJ
 
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Where was that posted? give a link pleasze

Vissy's post that you're responding to is exactly the one that I was referring to when I said that I'd read that LLoJ was Jewish!!! I don't think it's in this thread and can't remember where it's located! That's why I asked him what I did....
 
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It doesn't make any difference if it was on another thread or even in a different forum. If that paragraph was you speaking about yourself, you can't do that! You can't say two different things about yourself and not expect to get called on it!
If that paragraph was you quoting what someone else said then, I apologize for misunderstanding. But you didn't make that statement stand out as not being you saying something about yourself. It looked like you were giving a personal testimony.
 
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It is confusing, but that is a quote from Dr. Brown, not LLOJ.
 
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Not really seeing what the issue is. Following the flow of dialouge, the thread was on Dr.Michael Brown....and you came sharing information on that issue directly, as shown here:
For when you said what you did, you gave out the reference link before what you shared on the quote that was claimed you stole for yourself. However, anyone honestly taking the time to investigate the link would have seen rather easily that what was shared outside of quotations marks was clearly a quote....and as you've already said you were not Jewish on multiple occassions, it'd be logical to not assume you were making a claim in that thread that you were somehow Jewish. SOme things, IMHO, do not require one to be technical/have all things laid out as they may be by others who identify a quotation via a quotion mark since others on the forum have often shared a quote/given a link precedding it in order to show reference.

All it required was for one to investigate the link, see what was said, and recognize where you were already quoting another. The concept of giving benefit of a doubt...

On the quote from Dr.Brown which is in full:

 
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The mention of the Jewish soul/spark does go into a more mystical form of Judaism.
Some of the more mystical forms of Judaism, depending on how one explains it, can be acceptable.
 
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Originally Posted by Lulav
If it is idolatrous for Jews, why isn't it idolatrous for gentiles?


This is a difference between the beliefs of Judaism and Messianic Judaism. Judaism believes that the Messiah will be a man. Judaism believes that calling any man, God, and worshipping a man, is idolatry.
Right, what does that have to do with idolatry for all humans?

Messianic Judaism believes the Yeshua is God in the flesh.
That is a broad statement of MJ, but I won't go there right now.


Many Jews view this as a secular holiday, viewing western TV and seeing it as such. Still the Rabbi protested. The sellers of the trees did not like it either.

Judaism is not the religion of all Jewish people.

Those who are not Jewish are not believed to be held to the Noachide laws? which includes no idolatry? Also that Rabbi was protesting to the sale of the christmas trees in the land, it seems it has become quite a business, sadly.

Yet, many non Jewish Americans and Europeans put one up each year with not a thought of it honoring anyone.

The mention of the Jewish soul/spark does go into a more mystical form of Judaism.
Not sure what your point is here, even though I understand about the sparks.

This was seven years ago, but I assume it hasn't abated.

Oy, Christmas tree!

I thought I had posted this link before but see I hadn't. This is what I was referring to.
 
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Wow, he's pretty harsh with the claim that Christmas symbols are demonic (tree, holly, elves, mistletoe). Is that a common Messianic view? I'm guessing Tim Hegg is Messianic. I've heard his many mentioned many times.

Hegg is a bit of a hack theologian, and certainly a wannabe reformer and rowboat admiral. Discard most of his thoughts as imbalanced and you will do well. I don't think he represents a genuine Messianic theology. Way too angry at everyone.
 
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Why did Emperor Constantine and the Roman Church especially purposely choose the Birthday of Roman Sun god(Mastering Planting) to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ? Although they obviously did not know on which day Jesus was given to birth.
 
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