WHat is this

[nathaniel556]

ill stay out of this im going to bed peace

 

[~RENEE~]

Yek you said

we should go scold Paul for some of his writings

I said go for it.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Yek you said

I said go for it.

Now instead of quoting part of a sentence, quote my entire post so you can see the whole thing in context.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Yek you said

we should go scold Paul for some of his writings

I said go for it.

Well, take a look at the verses I posted and the rest of the post (all 2 sentences of it), that you conviently ignore all of the sudden. YOU DON'T EVEN QUOTE THE ENTIRE SENTENCE!! If I was one to report people for purposely misrepresenting me in such horrible fashion, I would have done it. I even sat around and waited for you to correct your error hoping the better person in you would do so and we could drop it and move on. But instead, I will settle for everyone seeing how ridiculous you are right now.

 

[Alpine]

mmmm.....
Not that Gamaliel wasn't a smart guy or good Pharisee, but I'm pretty sure vs. 38-39 are not instructions for Christians so much as they are just recording what Gamaliel said. Or if they are instrucions (from a Pharisee to Christians) we should go scold Paul for some of his writings.

Yekcidimij,

Tonight I watched a few hours of this revival. I am kinda skeptical, BUT I'm keeping an open mind. I came away from it feeling blessed. I believe souls were saved and the Spirit moved. Do some things bug me? Sure, like went Bentley says BOOM! When putting his hand on people. But, that might just be me and my style. That was a bit too flashy for my tastes. Also, at times it looked like he was pressing kinda hard on some people to get them to fall, and those didn't. (shrug)

I try to keep an open mind about these kinds of things. I saw Rodney Howard Brown in '96, and he rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't exactly tell you why.

I guess I would say give it time. If it isn't of God, it will die out soon enough. But, if it is of God, I don't want to miss out, and I'm sure you don't want to either.

Let's see what happens.

Let's not resist the Holy Spirit, but let's also not be naive.

So, I'm kinda saying you're wrong and you're right!

 

[Yitzchak]

well hey guys i just have a couple things to say one is that if these revivals r from god how come so many of u r denining them if there not how come so many of you dont go to uer pray closet and pray dont take my words out of context this tim e try to speack in the spirit thanxxxxxxxxx

If people would follow this , it would solve a lot of problems.

 

[Yitzchak]

Well they keep on reporting me it gets relly annoying they act worse then me at 2

Yes , it is annoying. they don't fight fairly. They use whatever means they can to try to win.

But I need to ask you to hold to your integrity in this. The forum has rules which you agreed to when you signed up on here. We obey these to the best of our ability out of conscience sake. Go back and read the rules carefully. This post of your is against the rules. I know many violate this. But it is the forum rule and perhaps they are doing their best and coming up short. Let's do our best.....

Remember what God says....Vengence is mine saith The Lord. God knows about the injustice and will deal with it in His time and His way. We can pray about it and perhaps speed up His move in this area.

 

[Yitzchak]

im totaly confused

Renee is saying that a person should not oppose too strongly the revival. Because if it is really God then they will be fighting against God and if it isn't God then they are wasting their time on something that will fail anyway.

Yekcidmij is disagreeing....He thinks we should oppose the revivals.

 

[Yitzchak]

David , you are doing a good job of standing up for God. Just remember a few things....

Pray and discern the attitude of the person you are responding to. Some people speak out of stubborn pride. Others out of emotional wounds. Some out of fear. Some are even sincere and have been taught so strongly against it they have a hard time overcoming that. Not all people who oppose the revivals are of the same attitude.

Also remember that even in churches where God does move , sometimes people do and say wrong things. The revival is real but not everything there is always pleasing to God. Some of the principles that the critics suggest are actually wise.

Don't get caught up in answering too quickly.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Renee is saying that a person should not oppose too strongly the revival. Because if it is really God then they will be fighting against God and if it isn't God then they are wasting their time on something that will fail anyway.

Yekcidmij is disagreeing....He thinks we should oppose the revivals.

I'm mostly disagreeing with the text from Acts that was used to try and support that idea. Rabbi Gamiliel isn't our leader nor does he give us instructions. It's a commone misused, or I think misused (feel free to follow the Rabbi), verse from Acts. I use to misuse it until I look a few verses earlier and saw what was up. Alpine's last post, however, wasn't too shabby (or at least I didn't think it was).

Your wording is funny too and somewhat misleading. "He thinks we should oppose revivals". Is that what I said? That statement really only begs the question since figuring out if it's a real, God given revival is exactly what's in question. And saying I think we should oppose revival is itself misleading. I only want to make sure that the "leader" is leading, evangelizing, preaching, and teaching correctly. And believe it or not, there are right and wrong ways to do things.

 

[DianeL]

Yekcidimij,

Tonight I watched a few hours of this revival. I am kinda skeptical, BUT I'm keeping an open mind. I came away from it feeling blessed. I believe souls were saved and the Spirit moved. Do some things bug me? Sure, like went Bentley says BOOM! When putting his hand on people. But, that might just be me and my style. That was a bit too flashy for my tastes. Also, at times it looked like he was pressing kinda hard on some people to get them to fall, and those didn't. (shrug)

I try to keep an open mind about these kinds of things. I saw Rodney Howard Brown in '96, and he rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't exactly tell you why.

I guess I would say give it time. If it isn't of God, it will die out soon enough. But, if it is of God, I don't want to miss out, and I'm sure you don't want to either.

Let's see what happens.

Let's not resist the Holy Spirit, but let's also not be naive.

So, I'm kinda saying you're wrong and you're right!

Hi Alpine,

I just wanted to mention that I attended a couple of Fresh Fire conferences last year, we did have a prayer line, Todd placed his hand on my head and prayed for me, it was very gentle, not pushing down.

Some people also can feel when the Holy Spirit is coming upon someone, some say 'there it is', or 'here it comes', I think Todd style is 'boom' now, as in a bomb going off, and even when many people are praying for you, laying on of hands, they're calling it a 'cluster bomb', that's all.

As you said, it's style ..... I'm just getting used to it myself

 

[nathaniel556]

it is style but iits also the annonting one has cause if you had the annoting of jesus you would walk around not even haveing to try to heal people i totaly agree with u though

 

[pinetree]

Yekcidimij,

Tonight I watched a few hours of this revival. I am kinda skeptical, BUT I'm keeping an open mind. I came away from it feeling blessed. I believe souls were saved and the Spirit moved. Do some things bug me? Sure, like went Bentley says BOOM! When putting his hand on people. But, that might just be me and my style. That was a bit too flashy for my tastes. Also, at times it looked like he was pressing kinda hard on some people to get them to fall, and those didn't. (shrug)

I try to keep an open mind about these kinds of things. I saw Rodney Howard Brown in '96, and he rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't exactly tell you why.

I guess I would say give it time. If it isn't of God, it will die out soon enough. But, if it is of God, I don't want to miss out, and I'm sure you don't want to either.

Let's see what happens.

Let's not resist the Holy Spirit, but let's also not be naive.

So, I'm kinda saying you're wrong and you're right!

 

[nathaniel556]

aright sounds good

 

[andreessen1992]

Well, that verse doesn't mean we can ask and receive any old thing we want. God isn't at our disposal like a magic genie.

i totaly agree with that statement, but if you want an anwser or are not sure if the revival in florida is real, then pray and(speaking from exsperience here) god will answer you on if it is fake or not

 

[nathaniel556]

booooooooo ya

 

[Yitzchak]

Your wording is funny too and somewhat misleading. "He thinks we should oppose revivals". Is that what I said? That statement really only begs the question since figuring out if it's a real, God given revival is exactly what's in question. And saying I think we should oppose revival is itself misleading. I only want to make sure that the "leader" is leading, evangelizing, preaching, and teaching correctly. And believe it or not, there are right and wrong ways to do things.

My wording was meant to give the bottom line. My understanding of your position from other threads in the forum is that you are against the revival. If you are just bringing up concerns and undecided then I stand corrected and apologize for misrepresenting what you were saying.

Renee seems 100% convinced that the revival in Florida is from God. You seemed equally convinced that it is not. If I misunderstood , then I am sorry.

I guess I would ask you this. What revival in the last 100 years , were you in favor of ? Azusa ? Holiness Camp Meetings? Toronto ? Brownsville ? Rodney Howard Browne ? Lakeland ?

I have my own concerns at times. But yours seem to go much farther than mine.

 

[The Princess Bride]

Quit splitting hairs.


If you ain't been there, you (in general sense) ain't the final authority on whether it is or it ain't a 'true' move of God.


So unless you've been there, seen it, and experienced EACH and EVERY one.....well....quit yer whinning and skepticisms.


If there is any ONE thing I can say I've learned about God....it's that He LOVES to DISRUPT the way we have 'always done things' and our inhibitive mindsets on the way we move. Our "mind" and natural perception can be our own worst enemy when it comes to the things of God, if we spend too much time over analyzing every minut detail. This is not to state that we should not test things of the Spirit, but to not rely on past precedence or natural perception to be the sole informant we use.

 

[~RENEE~]

Quit splitting hairs.


If you ain't been there, you (in general sense) ain't the final authority on whether it is or it ain't a 'true' move of God.


So unless you've been there, seen it, and experienced EACH and EVERY one.....well....quit yer whinning and skepticisms.


If there is any ONE thing I can say I've learned about God....it's that He LOVES to DISRUPT the way we have 'always done things' and our inhibitive mindsets on the way we move. Our "mind" and natural perception can be our own worst enemy when it comes to the things of God, if we spend too much time over analyzing every minut detail. This is not to state that we should not test things of the Spirit, but to not rely on past precedence or natural perception to be the sole informant we use.

And a big hearty AMEN

 

[Mark2010]

Quit splitting hairs.


If you ain't been there, you (in general sense) ain't the final authority on whether it is or it ain't a 'true' move of God.


So unless you've been there, seen it, and experienced EACH and EVERY one.....well....quit yer whinning and skepticisms.


If there is any ONE thing I can say I've learned about God....it's that He LOVES to DISRUPT the way we have 'always done things' and our inhibitive mindsets on the way we move. Our "mind" and natural perception can be our own worst enemy when it comes to the things of God, if we spend too much time over analyzing every minut detail. This is not to state that we should not test things of the Spirit, but to not rely on past precedence or natural perception to be the sole informant we use.

So how in the world would one know if something was genuine or phoney?