What is the weirdest "Christian" doctrine you have ever personally encountered?

[~RENEE~]

that blacks are descendants of the son of Noah that mocked Noah when he was naked and drunk in his tent. Hence the black race are all cursed.

SIDENOTE DON'T YELL AT ME THAT IS THE TEACHING.

 

[Gospel Guy]

"When wine is mentioned in the Bible it really means grape juice"

Yeah, like Jesus made alcoholic wine at that wedding as to help people get drunk which is a sin... and thus would be claiming Jesus is a sinner!

 

[Gospel Guy]

this one is weird...

SIN BOTHERS GOD UNTIL WE GET SAVED, AND THEN HE ENCOURAGES IT.

Oh, you mean modern day "extreme-grace" teachings by Joseph Prince and Joel Osteen and other TV preachers?

How about the claims of some that God speaks to them through centering/contemplative prayer, journaling, and other occultic means.

Nah, those that call this "occultic" believe God does not speak to people any more and are cessationists who choose not to believe in the entire New Testament... just bits and pieces of it so they don't have to be responsible for their lives.

These people fail to realize Jesus said their is NO truth in the devil, which means all satanic activity is taking what he sees God do with His people... and he does it with those that reject God is carnal strength and abilities.

Another weird one:

The gifts and calling of God are without repentance, so the absence of the fruit of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control) in one's life isn't important.

Yeah, that's the OSAS crowd who needs an excuse to have a little sin in their life every now and again

 

[talitha]

Another weird one:

The gifts and calling of God are without repentance, so the absence of the fruit of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control) in one's life isn't important.

It IS important - however, the fact that it is important doesn't mean that the gifts and calling go away when we are not abiding in the Vine. Balaam was a gifted and accurate prophet, but his character made him a "false prophet". Some people who prophesy, perform miracles, and cast out demons "never knew" Jesus. Gifts and calling are not a reward for having the fruit of the Spirit. Rather, the fruit of the Spirit is a reward for abiding in the Vine.

 

[talitha]

Originally Posted by Faulty

How about the claims of some that God speaks to them through centering/contemplative prayer, journaling, and other occultic means.​

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Nah, those that call this "occultic" believe God does not speak to people any more and are cessationists who choose not to believe in the entire New Testament... just bits and pieces of it so they don't have to be responsible for their lives.

These people fail to realize Jesus said their is NO truth in the devil, which means all satanic activity is taking what he sees God do with His people... and he does it with those that reject God is carnal strength and abilities.

Agreed@GospelGuy

 

[FoundInGrace]

"that God is not in control of all things"

to me that's a weird one

 

[Frogster]

Yeah, like Jesus made alcoholic wine at that wedding as to help people get drunk which is a sin... and thus would be claiming Jesus is a sinner!

the jews drank wine, and it had alcohol in it.

Deuteronomy 14:26
and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household.

not condoning drunkeness, but the wine had alcohol as most know, with several NT texts to back it up, Tim was told by Paul, to drink a litttle wine, but then again, if you wish, start a thread on it, not to derail. Thanks, your pal froggy.

 

[Gospel Guy]

the jews drank wine, and it had alcohol in it.

Go study Jewish history of the time of Jesus... they put a very, very small amount of fermented alcohol in to a jug of water due to the water not being that clean and they called it "wine". It would take over glasses of what they drank to equal one glass of what we would get at a restaurant.

They also called fresh squeezed grape juice "wine" when they had first made it as this was the only word that had for the fruit of the vine.

There are many warnings in the Bible against strong drink and drunkenness as intoxication is a sin. Modern medical science has proven that as little as one ounce of alcohol changes a person's thinking... and they have proven that alcohol is very dangerous for not only the liver but also the brain.

So, it is very irresponsible for a Christian to speak favorably of the sin of drinking alcohol as it is not only proven to be a known carcinogen but it brings reproach upon God's people as it encourages sinful behavior. What's next... smokin weed for Jesus?

But, don't let me cramp yo styles... drink up

 

[Rubiks]

the idea that god has marked unbelievers by black skin

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Another one I think is quirky is that God doesn't mind us listening to worldly music.

 

[mourningdove~]

Another weird one:

That a female believer that openly questions, and/or disagrees with, the views, beliefs, or opinions of a male believer is a jezebel.

 

[Messy]

that blacks are descendants of the son of Noah that mocked Noah when he was naked and drunk in his tent. Hence the black race are all cursed.

SIDENOTE DON'T YELL AT ME THAT IS THE TEACHING.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljb958g8mR1qflj9s.jpg

 

[Messy]

Another weird one:

That a female believer that openly questions, and/or disagrees with, the views, beliefs, or opinions of a male believer is a jezebel.

Oh yes funny and that a woman can't use make up, because Jezebel made her eyes black.
Rodney Howard Browne on this one: Jezebel, jinglebell, every old door needs a lick of paint.

 

[Tobias]

Another weird one:

That a female believer that openly questions, and/or disagrees with, the views, beliefs, or opinions of a male believer is a jezebel.

Oh really? We all know that there is only one kind of woman that would question this teaching!

 

[mourningdove~]

And another:

Demons don't exist, nor do they personally attack the believer in Jesus Christ.

 

[Gospel Guy]

Another weird one:

That a female believer that openly questions, and/or disagrees with, the views, beliefs, or opinions of a male believer is a jezebel.

Ah... just ignore those jezebels... don't let 'em push ya around

 

[Frogster]

Go study Jewish history of the time of Jesus... they put a very, very small amount of fermented alcohol in to a jug of water due to the water not being that clean and they called it "wine". It would take over glasses of what they drank to equal one glass of what we would get at a restaurant.

They also called fresh squeezed grape juice "wine" when they had first made it as this was the only word that had for the fruit of the vine.

There are many warnings in the Bible against strong drink and drunkenness as intoxication is a sin. Modern medical science has proven that as little as one ounce of alcohol changes a person's thinking... and they have proven that alcohol is very dangerous for not only the liver but also the brain.

So, it is very irresponsible for a Christian to speak favorably of the sin of drinking alcohol as it is not only proven to be a known carcinogen but it brings reproach upon God's people as it encourages sinful behavior. What's next... smokin weed for Jesus?

But, don't let me cramp yo styles... drink up

you need to go study, not me, why would it talk of drunkeness in different passages, if it did not have enough alcohol to get one drunk!:?

besides, show me where it says Christians can't have a glass of wine, and how it is sin?


Paul was worrying about grape juice stumbling someone? he told Tim to have some, and Paul sipped too!



in fact, you are going against scripture, not me..judging....




Col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

 

[Gospel Guy]

My post earlier already gave you several good reasons... so drink up

Here's two witnesses from the NT concerning what the Lord says...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


Galatians 5:16-24
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

 

[TasManOfGod]

Hey Chill out Gospel Guy
I didn't say that because wine means wine that we should guzzle it

 

[Frogster]

My post earlier already gave you several good reasons... so drink up

Here's two witnesses from the NT concerning what the Lord says...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


Galatians 5:16-24
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

paul sipped, Jesus sipped, Tim sipped, the Jews sipped, why presume a glass of wine turns one into a drunkard?

talk about splattering verses to exaggerate something incorrectly.