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Jane Doe, I understand you believe in the Book of Mormon. You are free to do so and I am free to dismiss it.
Anytime, in a discusson of God, Jesus, the events pertaining to messages from God or Christ...... to me, an angel is a certain type of being. One created, by God, in different ranks and positions with different responsibilities, abilities, powers and tasks. An angel is never a term applied to just anything or anyone who delivers a message. It most certainly is not the soul, spirit, conciousness or personality of somene that was once a man, human, on this earth who died and came back to tell us some important message...
Sorry, but that is how I believe and for that reason, among others, I dismiss the Book of Mormon, before it is out of the gate.
As for the explanations on the contradictions I gave, In every cult or sect that is not totally biblical, there will be twists and changes and exceptions that the leaders fabricate in order to justify their theology. I am not buying any of it.
I believe that the Holy Bible from Genesis to the Revelations, is the only book that I need and I will stand firmly on it as the Holy, word of God and our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Thanks for your time in this debate. I hope that I have not offended you or your right to freedom of religion.
1, In other words you can't find any contradictions? Is that what you are saying?
2, What about Rev 22
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
It's a clear description of a messenger being called an angel and them him telling John nope I'm one of the prophets. How does that fit your beliefs?
I could say that Moroni was just as this man, not one of your angel beings but sent to show Joseph where he buried the plates. Joseph merely called him angel to express the concept of messenger.
I believe in Cherubims that they have wings and fly through the heavens as the Bible describes. How do you know you haven't confused or merged the two into one kind of being?
In Rev 1&2 it speaks of the angels of the seven churches which is a clear reference to the Bishops who were placed over those churches, living men. In 1 Tim 3 there is a another similar reference and here it is referring to the Apostles;
"God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
1John 1
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us.
The word angel is used in many different ways.
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