LDS What is the reward?

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Romans 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

In the end of a believer's life, what is his reward?

I don't get the connection between the scripture and your question. :scratch:
 
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I don't get the connection between the scripture and your question. :scratch:

I expect it to become more apparent as Mormons respond. But, suppose we become sinless, will we be punished or rewarded?
 
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Romans 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

In the end of a believer's life, what is his reward?
You have to do something to receive a reward. Often the rewards are called Crowns. For example there is a reward for soul winners. These are things we do that are not a part of our own salvation. If you want to be great you have to be a servant. If you want to be the greatest in the Kingdom you must be a servant to all. Then you will be richly rewarded, your reward will be great.

Luke 6 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

When we do thinks for people we expect them to repay us. With God we are better off to do thinks for people that can not repay us. Then God will reward us.
 
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People don't recognize that the reward is being with God, but it can sink in with time.

Beyond that, eye has not seen, nor ear heard, what awaits you.
Also, there are mansions in Heaven, big houses, otherwise Jesus would not have told you so.
Big houses, like this big [___] maybe this big [_____]
 
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People don't recognize that the reward is being with God, but it can sink in with time.
Love this!

Beyond that, eye has not seen, nor ear heard, what awaits you.
Also, there are mansions in Heaven, big houses, otherwise Jesus would not have told you so.
Big houses, like this big [___] maybe this big [_____]

God's Presence is even better than the mansion!
 
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Not sure I follow you. Do you believe in eternal punishment or destruction?
Will sinners be punished?
They will be punished for 1,000 years before God annihilates them or wipes out all of their memory so it will be as if they never existed. During the thousand years people will remember them. The battle ground for the battle of armageddon will be there for 1,000 years.

Isaiah 66:24
"Then they will go forth and look On the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me For their worm will not die And their fire will not be quenched; And they will be an abhorrence to all mankind."

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A better question is - why are you ignoring Romans 6:1?

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

What Romans 6:2 says is what Romans 6:1 would say also.
 
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The point I was trying to make is that 6:1 sets the tone for the entire chapter, including, of course, 6:2. They should be considered together, instead of solo.

Then why be against his quote, by saying he neglected something of the same material.
 
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Then why be against his quote, by saying he neglected something of the same material.

Perhaps a clearer reading of the passage would be:

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid.

3 How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?


You see, what all too often happens is that critics of the LDS church lob verses around without consideration for context in the mistaken belief that these verses represent "Gotcha!" moments.

In this case, Phoebe was trying to emphasize the wrong part of that passage. The portion that she highlighted is in fact the follow-up question to Paul's rhetorical statement, and not the statement in and of itself. Because of this, she's deriving a conclusion that does not flow. The passage is about Paul admonishing people to put away their sins and come more fully into Christ, with nothing in this small snippet about any rewards.
 
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Perhaps a clearer reading of the passage would be:

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid.

3 How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?


You see, what all too often happens is that critics of the LDS church lob verses around without consideration for context in the mistaken belief that these verses represent "Gotcha!" moments.

In this case, Phoebe was trying to emphasize the wrong part of that passage. The portion that she highlighted is in fact the follow-up question to Paul's rhetorical statement, and not the statement in and of itself. Because of this, she's deriving a conclusion that does not flow. The passage is about Paul admonishing people to put away their sins and come more fully into Christ, with nothing in this small snippet about any rewards.

Phoebe Ann asked for the Morman's interpretation, there is no need to be against her character.
As for the quote, people all around don't know what Grace is.
Putting away sins is what the quote is for, but Grace is the means.
Therefore, if you don't know what Grace is, but Grace is the means for Holiness,
how far off are you if you get it wrong? People think Grace is slackness, it is not.
Grace is empowerment, therefore it should make sense what it written, have faith in Grace.
Have faith in empowerment, and you can become Holy, and not of your own ability, for it is a gift.
 
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Phoebe Ann asked for the Morman's interpretation, there is no need to be against her character.

Thing is, she's gone against our character quite a bit in the past.

As for the quote, people all around don't know what Grace is.

...and it's not helping that people here keep pushing "Once Saved, Always Saved" and "Cheap Grace" as their definitions even though the Bible itself discredits those theologies.
 
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Thing is, she's gone against our character quite a bit in the past.



...and it's not helping that people here keep pushing "Once Saved, Always Saved" and "Cheap Grace" as their definitions even though the Bible itself discredits those theologies.

No it doesn't help. If I would leave advice for you, I would say consider the scripture, if your right hand offends you, cut it off. Christians are not allowed to be offended. What offendedness does is the waxing of a cold heart, which is the dying of love.
 
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