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Ah yes, but not all people choose to be saved.
Still though, yes i see your point, of course.
But the debt is paid for the whole world, and in one man the world fell, and in One Man the world is redeemed with God.
Hmmm....I don't see where the bible says you choose to be saved?
Hmmm....
I think you can ignore the Truth.
Isn't that rather human?
We can go even further, like DENYING the Truth.
Or choose not too, for that matter...Once again I say...."I don't see where the bible says you choose to be saved?".
O nooo... I doomed...I'll call that a swing and a miss....strike one on presenting scripture.
No, He chose to save everyone.
Once again you misunderstand christianity. As for me trying to make you understand...I can't.
That's the job of the Holy Spirit.
I can see the cross is a stumbling block for you.
Not much I can do for you considering you're still playing games and never will agree with christianity.
God did just that...He doomed everyone who is disobedient....
Just for the record, every single person who has ever lived, is living and will live will face justice (doomed).....
unless God Himself decides to have mercy and compassion on them.
Apparently God hasn't decided to have mercy and compassion on you. Then again maybe someday God will...and He'll quicken you and give you the faith to believe.
It's easy to understand...It's called federal headship.
despite that...you still sin...commit cosmic treason... and are condemned. Whether you agree with or like it.
You're actually getting pretty close to the truth....we are saved from God wrath. Saved from God.
Does God have to save anyone? The answer is no.
The wages of sin is death. The death will be yours unless a sinless individual (Jesus) would die in your place and become your sin....IMPUTATION...
It couldn't be the devil because he has already sinned. So, simply killing the devil won't work.
One thing the bible has done is provide prophecy...which came to pass. Isaiah 53 is a good place to start.
As far as other "holy books"...there is only the bible.
Or choose not too, for that matter...
I think there are plenty examples in the Bible where people either repent or do not, follow or acknowledge the Lord or not, and have that choice.
O nooo... I doomed...
You can't? That's certainly interesting.
And how do I differentiate the "Holy Spirit" from:
- my own mind
- my own imagination
- me being mistaken
- hallucination
Unevidenced, unverifiable claims are stumbling block for me.
And yes, the fact that the lore itself is completely absurd, doesn't help.
I'm not playing any "games"?
No. He doomed everyone after a single couple was disobedient. It's known as "the fall".
2 people were disobedient and God then thought it was necessary to not only doom them, but all of their off spring, which (according to the lore) are actually all humans.
You were not aware of this part of the story?
I just call it unjust, unfair and immoral.
If you say so.
"but he loves you".
If god is a moral being, the answer is actually "yes".
How is that justice? How is that fair? How does that make sense in any way?
Suppose your daughter gets gang raped and brutally killed by 10 people.
In court, they are all condemned to life in prison.
Then judge says "I'll go to jail in their place".
The 10 people "gracefully accept this gift" and get to go home, free as birds.
In your opinion, this is an example of "divine justice"?????
It seems to me that if he would have killed the devil, the fall would have never happened.
What does that even mean?You do that's strike two.
So what?"I think there are plenty examples".....isn't scriptural.
What does that even mean?So what?
Isn't it true then?
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