What is "The Great tribulation"?

[Spiritual Jew]

There would be no reason for Revelation 4:1-2 if it were not reflective of the rapture event.

What is that claim based on? The reason for it as that God wanted John to see things from a heavenly perspective. The rapture is not in view at all in Revelation 4:1-2. That is completely farfetched.

To be part of the body of Christ, a person has to be a Christian. The body of Christ is removed from the earth in the rapture before the wrath of God is poured out on the world, in 1Thessalonians5. The rapture being in verses 9-11.

Why would someone who becomes a Christian after a supposed "any time rapture", as you put it, not be part of the body of Christ? There is no basis for believing that. It's utter nonsense.

 

[Douggg]

What is that claim based on? The reason for it as that God wanted John to see things from a heavenly perspective.

It was not necessary to do it in the manner of the rapture. John could have been shown those things in his sleep, placed in heaven in a night vision.

 

[Douggg]

Why would someone who becomes a Christian after a supposed "any time rapture", as you put it, not be part of the body of Christ? There is no basis for believing that. It's utter nonsense.

Post the Rapture event, people not taken will have a validated eye witnessed event, to base their necessary faith on to become a Christian.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

It was not necessary to do it in the manner of the rapture. John could have been shown those things in his sleep, placed in heaven in a night vision.

You're reaching. All you have is speculation and making ridiculous claims such as your claim that the church on earth isn't referenced in Revelation 6-20. There is no clear scripture you can point to that supports your anytime trib rapture theory.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Post the Rapture event, people not taken will have a validated eye witnessed event, to base their necessary faith on to become a Christian.

What does that even mean?

All Christians, regardless of when they become Christians, are part of the body of Christ/church. There is no scripture you can use to show otherwise.

 

[Timtofly]

I agree that "church age" is not a biblical term. It is just an expression used by many Christians to refer to the time of the church spanning from the apostles to the rapture.

Church age sounds better than the fulness of the Gentiles or intra-Advent period. I guess many have their pet names for the last 1991 years based on their ideology. Not like they are literally naming the period themselves with some original interpretive gesture.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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