What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Hans Blaster]

It worked for interplanetary applications as well, IIRC!

But are the "Bugs" greater than us?

 

[SelfSim]

But are the "Bugs" greater than us?

Well, they were certainly very big bugs in their native environment .. but I think humans defeated them .. (until the second episode that is, )

Can natural selection produce an interplanetary competitive advantage?
Hmm .. interesting!

 

[muichimotsu]

Well, others clearly have more patience than I; NBB to me, seems like they aren't here for any kind of discussion, just dogmatic assertions and preaching with the anti intellectual drivel that they think is "science"

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Wasn't there an alien bug in the movie 'Starship Troopers' which used a flame thrower type method as a weapon of mass destruction?

I don't recall that bug - I suspect the standard spiky stabby bugs have seared themselves over any memories of bug variety (or was it the shower scenes?)

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

My capabilities are ... mmm ... different. Yeah, let's go with different.

You need an ignition source?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Well, others clearly have more patience than I; NBB to me, seems like they aren't here for any kind of discussion, just dogmatic assertions and preaching with the anti intellectual drivel that they think is "science"

He's not the first... after a while, my responses are for lurkers and for practice. Finding documented answers is a good way to keep up to date with the field.

 

[Shemjaza]

I don't recall that bug - I suspect the standard spiky stabby bugs have seared themselves over any memories of bug variety (or was it the shower scenes?)

I'd post a gif... but that's a very violent film, and this is a family friendly website.

 

[driewerf]

But my pont is evolution is less than people but you assume is greater because created people, but that is not true so... NEXT!

Yes you seen some people building something as great as people themselves NO NO! NEXT!

How can "evolution be less than people", when it isn't a thing but a process.
Is weather more or less than people? Or does the question make no sense?
Is travel more or less than people? Or does the question make no sense?
Is growing more or less than people? Or does the question make no sense?
Is pandemic more or less than people? Or does the question make no sense?
Is election more or less than people? Or does the question make no sense?

Your posts reveal either an incredible ignorance of what you're talking about or an huge dishonnesty.

 

[driewerf]

Something better, more capable, more sophisticated, whatever you wish, you understand... No, people can't create something as great as themselves, the creation is always less than the creator, from zero intelligence can't come intelligence and engineering etc. is just something you see with your eyes everyday, the process of evolution has zero capability to create people.

belief, thought, conviction whatever you wish, you think no people can experience God, you do, because you just tell it, that is just my belefs and i had no experience, why are you so certain then? because God is not something too far away from humans, and scientist create science because they experience things, this can be the same even if there is no hard evidence on hand, people all the time lives and acts from what they think and feel inside, and they can swear for those things.

No, it's not whatever we wish. When people ask what you mean the answer can't be "Whatever you wish". You'd better think this through, be sure about what you mean.

 

[Speedwell]

Look treating people as ignorant because they don't believe in evolution is a common rude thing evolutionist do. 'Science' is screwed and ignorant of the truth when they start to say our origin is not God.

Yeah, but science doesn't say that--it's just a lie that creationists like you tell about science.

 

[Ophiolite]

Look treating people as ignorant because they don't believe in evolution is a common rude thing evolutionist do.

The majority of Creationists, at least those who post on forums, reveal that they are profoundly ignorant of evolution.

• They are unaware of the fundamentals of evolutionary theory
• They are unfamiliar with the relevant terminology
• They do not understand how the scientific method works
• They post outdated and long since refuted arguments
• They lack knowledge of the wealth of information supporting evolutionary theory
• They are stunningly ill informed about the fields that contribute to that theory, including archaeology, anatomy, antrhopology, biochemistry, biogeography, botany, chemistry, cladistics
  developmental biology, ecology, genetics, geochemistry, geochronology, geology, geophysics, and
  palaeontology.

There is much to be ignorant about, but Creationists routinely manage to avoid an understanding of practically all of it.

You seem to think that calling someone ignorant is an insult. That is not so. We are all ignorant. Even the most knowledgeable person in the world knows far less than the sum of all knowledge. They are ignorant. I am ignorant. You are ignorant.

What is relevant here is what are people ignorant of. In the case of Creationists they are, as I have noted above, most are ignorant of almost everything about evolution. That is not a problem in itself. What is a problem is when they start to challenge evolutionary theory from a position of ignorance. That is foolish. And pointless. And rude. Acquire a sound knowledge of evolutionary theory and your arguments will be welcomed. Parrot the same tired nonsense and you will be laughed at behind your back. Your choice.

 

[driewerf]

Look treating people as ignorant because they don't believe in evolution is a common rude thing evolutionist do. 'Science' is screwed and ignorant of the truth when they start to say our origin is not God.

No, science minded people don't label creationists as ignorant for just not "believing evolution"? that's a falsehood.
Creationists are labelled as ignorant for the statements they make like

• evolution now without any science or intelligence at alll invented brains?
  
• i don't believe random change and death is more intelligent than ourselves
  
• Give a kid that was raised by monkeys in the jungle airplanes parts to make an airplane, lets see if he lives 10000 years what he can do alone without education...
  
• Now evolution doesn't have education, or intelligence or anything to be capable of making humans
  
• evolution is just a simple even stupid and lacking everything related to science and intelligence but could really made things better than people could?
  
• Do evolution have any intelligent about it? or creative?
  
• But my pont is evolution is less than people but you assume is greater because created people, but that is not true so... NEXT!

and so on ad nauseam. Start showing some knowledge about the Theory of Evolution and you guys will not be labelled as ignorant.
Start showing a will to learn, that would be a real novelty for creationists.

 

[Ophiolite]

Snap.

 

[driewerf]

@NBB,
you know what, I am in a good mood this evening.
Here are some links to different educational resources. If you don't want to be called ignorant start studying. Astonish us with your will to learn.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01 (very basic introduction)

here are some free textbooks on line
Biology Books Online
Natural Sciences Textbooks - Open Textbook Library
https://bookboon.com/en/textbooks (note, the books contain advertisements)

 

[NBB]

@NBB,
you know what, I am in a good mood this evening.
Here are some links to different educational resources. If you don't want to be called ignorant start studying. Astonish us with your will to learn.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01 (very basic introduction)

here are some free textbooks on line
Biology Books Online
Natural Sciences Textbooks - Open Textbook Library

Except that educatoin is useless when they say our origin is evolution and not God, so the ignorant its you actually. You ignore the biggest truth that man needs to know for a good life. I just ignore useless stuff, maybe mixed with some other good science too why not, but evolution didn't created us.

 

[driewerf]

Except that educatoin is useless when they say our origin is evolution and not God, so the ignorant its you actually.

So, just like all the other creationists you are unwilling to know what you are arguing against.
You will not astonish us with a will to learn. How predictable ... and boring.

Oh, and since you now have labelled education as useless, it will not be rude to label you as ignorant.

 

[driewerf]

You should repent, or you may find the compassion of God was limited to when we lived on earth only.

That's a new one, god is limited now?

 

[NBB]

So, just like all the other creationists you are unwilling to know what you are arguing against.
You will not astonish us with a will to learn. How predictable ... and boring.

Oh, and since you know have labelled education as useless, it will not be rude to label you as ignorant.

So if you knew God you would still say evolution is our origin?
Either evolutoin made us, like they say it doesn't need any help its just a process that does its thing and comes with a result by its own...
Or yes God made us, i know God so i am a little biased in what to think about our creation why would i not be.

 

[NBB]

That's als a new one, god is limited now?

God has compassion for you while on earth after that you either accepted Jesus here or rejected him and died with your injustices without pardon, this is basic christianity.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

God has compassion for you while on earth after that you either accepted Jesus here or rejected him and died with your injustices without pardon, this is basic christianity.

So much for omnibenevolent, all-merciful, etc.