What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Strathos]

(For @Speedwell ) The assertion that the existence of God falsifies the theory of evolution is a lie.

And vice-versa.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And vice-versa.

That too.

 

[NBB]

You know man invented a camera only 100 years ago or something like that, after thousands of years of advancement in science and study and effort etc, and evolution now without any science or intelligence at alll invented brains? the creation is always less than the creator i don't believe random change and death is more intelligent than ourselves. do you?

 

[NBB]

Give a kid that was raised by monkeys in the jungle airplanes parts to make an airplane, lets see if he lives 10000 years what he can do alone without education... he couldn't have built the plane.
Now evolution doesn't have education, or intelligence or anything to be capable of making humans and evolution doesn't get parts either has to built everything blind and without anything i told, basically evolution is a lot less capable than a kid, but you agree the human bodies is a 'marvel of engineering' like some evolutoinst say it is, so how is this?
RIDICULOUS.

 

[NBB]

That's a tautology, you can't conflate two things that are categorically distinct in what their properties are.

Evolution is clearly not contrary to God's word or there wouldn't be Christians that believe it. You don't get to gatekeep based on your intransigent dogmatic attitude, actually point it out in a way that is honest and not question begging

And God's word is, by any reasonable assessment, NOT a scientific textbook, so you've completely missed the point with this absurd literalism and idolization of a religious scripture to think that anything against it is wrong.

Then again, it's amusing the contradictions here, when technology can be argued to be against God by the Amish, yet here you are not realizing any cognitive dissonance by using the internet to spread this asinine tripe that you think will convince anyone of anything unless they're as credulous as you are and ignorant of science to boot

You wouldn't undestand... christians have met the God of the bible, for some people this is 'crazy' for christians that experienced God, just means that the bible came true.
Two opposite poles talking here.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Give a kid that was raised by monkeys in the jungle airplanes parts to make an airplane, lets see if he lives 10000 years what he can do alone without education... he couldn't have built the plane.
...
RIDICULOUS.

Yes, your analogies are ridiculous.

 

[NBB]

Yes, your analogies are ridiculous.

Your atheism is more ridiculous, and you don't even know it. And laugh that tommorow you will cry... just kidding a bit, but is true, but i don't want to be rude after all.
Agree with me than evolution is no more capable than that kid, you will because is truth.. how evolution built brains then? you know if evolution were possible there would be computer simulation of AI building stuff, and please don't tell me that exists, but the closer there is, the program is given input and already built solutions to chooose from, yes they would have created an ai that could build stuff good stuff i mean but the smartest people can't do that, what makes you think evolution can do better?

 

[SelfSim]

.. and evolution now without any science or intelligence at alll invented brains? the creation is always less than the creator i don't believe random change and death is more intelligent than ourselves. do you?

Do you not see that all you just did there was to falsify your own premise of: 'the creation is always less than the creator'? (whatever that is supposed to mean) ..

Talk about a self-defeating argument!

 

[NBB]

Do you not see that all you just did th/ere was to falsify your own premise of: 'the creation is always less than the creator'? (whatever that is supposed to mean) ..

Talk about a self-defeating argument!

Yes the creation is always less than the creator, humans couldn't make something greater than themselves but evolution is just a simple even stupid and lacking everything related to science and intelligence but could really made things better than people could?.

 

[SelfSim]

.. basically evolution is a lot less capable than a kid,

First time I've seen that one .. Hilarious!

.. but you agree the human bodies is a 'marvel of engineering' like some evolutoinst say it is, so how is this? RIDICULOUS.

So? ... Just ignore their opinion then! Simple!
Problem solved for you ..
Next!!

 

[NBB]

First time I've seen that one .. Hilarious!

So? ... Just ignore their opinion then! Simple!
Problem solved for you ..
Next!!

Do evolution have any intelligent about it? or creative? then agree with me please.
Its just random change and death, now please let some smart person build an AI capable of building even the most basic thing with that kind of process... and don't tell me that exists because it doesn't the programs that exist choose from already built solutions and input.

 

[muichimotsu]

You wouldn't undestand... christians have met the God of the bible, for some people this is 'crazy' for christians that experienced God, just means that the bible came true.
Two opposite poles talking here.

You can believe that, it doesn't make it true. And yeah, there are opposites here, those who care about evidence and those who care about their own personal convictions above anything else. Guess which ones are less rational?

 

[SelfSim]

Yes the creation is always less than the creator, humans couldn't make something greater than themselves

You need to explain what you mean by: 'greater than themselves' .
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

but evolution is just a simple even stupid and lacking everything related to science and intelligence but could really made things better than people could?.

Where do think the concept of evolution came from? (Hint: Try 'people'!)

Problem solved .. NEXT!!

 

[NBB]

You can believe that, it doesn't make it true. And yeah, there are opposites here, those who care about evidence and those who care about their own personal convictions above anything else. Guess which ones are less rational?

You assume *that i have only convictions* NO, i have proof of God for myself, you are too trapped in your strong belief that nobodie could have possibly experienced God ever. WRONG! God interacts with some people.

 

[NBB]

You need to explain what you mean by: 'greater than themselves' .
Problem solved .. NEXT!!
Where do think the concept of evolution came from? (Hint: Try 'people'!)

Problem solved .. NEXT!!

But my pont is evolution is less than people but you assume is greater because created people, but that is not true so... NEXT!

Yes you seen some people building something as great as people themselves NO NO! NEXT!

 

[SelfSim]

Do evolution have any intelligent about it? or creative? then agree with me please.

Where do you think what you mean when you use the words 'creative' and 'intelligent' came from? (Hint: Try 'people'!)
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

Its just random change and death, now please let some smart person build an AI capable of building even the most basic thing with that kind of process... and don't tell me that exists because it doesn't the programs that exist choose from already built solutions and input.

Where do you think 'the programs that exist' came from? (Hint: Try 'intelligent and creative' people' .. Y'know .. same as source of the concept of evolution!)
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

 

[SelfSim]

But my pont is evolution is less than people but you assume is greater because created people, but that is not true so... NEXT!

Whatever do you mean by 'is not true'?
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

Yes you seen some people building something as great as people themselves NO NO! NEXT!

Whatever do you mean by 'as great as people'?
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

 

[NBB]

Whatever do you mean by 'is not true'?
Problem solved .. NEXT!!


Whatever do you mean by 'as great as people'?
Problem solved .. NEXT!!

Something better, more capable, more sophisticated, whatever you wish, you understand... No, people can't create something as great as themselves, the creation is always less than the creator, from zero intelligence can't come intelligence and engineering etc. is just something you see with your eyes everyday, the process of evolution has zero capability to create people.

 

[muichimotsu]

You assume *that i have only convictions* NO, i have proof of God for myself, you are too trapped in your strong belief that nobodie could have possibly experienced God ever. WRONG! God interacts with some people.

That's not proof, that's experience, which doesn't constitute evidence and certainly not proof in either the mathematical or legal sense, because I'm pretty sure people aren't just going to take you at your word as how reality works because you felt fuzzy inside and call it the Holy Spirit or whatnot.

I never stated that as a belief, stop being dishonest and putting words in my mouth

 

[NBB]

That's not proof, that's experience, which doesn't constitute evidence and certainly not proof in either the mathematical or legal sense, because I'm pretty sure people aren't just going to take you at your word as how reality works because you felt fuzzy inside and call it the Holy Spirit or whatnot.

I never stated that as a belief, stop being dishonest and putting words in my mouth

belief, thought, conviction whatever you wish, you think no people can experience God, you do, because you just tell it, that is just my belefs and i had no experience, why are you so certain then? because God is not something too far away from humans, and scientist create science because they experience things, this can be the same even if there is no hard evidence on hand, people all the time lives and acts from what they think and feel inside, and they can swear for those things.