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Featured What is the Day of the Lord?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Quasar92, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Ancient Israel, under Joshua did occupy all the area given to Abraham, but they never totally conquered it. They made treaties and compromises with the original peoples and as we see later, they were harassed by them, also took on some of their false worship. See Judges 1:19, 27, 29-35.
    So we still await the final time that a people who 'bear the proper fruit', will live in all the Land from the Nile to the Euphrates. It will be every true Christian from every tribe, nation, and language, who will go to live there after the Day of the Lord has removed all the ungodly peoples.
    Psalms 69:22-36 Our enemies cannot see the punishment coming upon them. Let Your burning anger overtake them, let their towns and houses be deserted. Take heart, you seekers after the Lord, for He will deliver Zion and restore the Land. His people will settle there and possess the holy Land. The children of those who serve Him will inherit it and those who love Him will live there.
     
  2. Dave-W

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    Wrong. There is absolutely nothing in scripture to tie "the Lord's day" (Rev 1.10) to the first day of the week; while there is much in the book of Revelation to tie it to destruction and judgement.

    Besides, there is no such thing as a "Christian weekly Sabbath" ever authorized in scripture. That is entirely man-made.
     
  3. ICONO'CLAST

    ICONO'CLAST Well-Known Member

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    Your post is off topic as well as wrong.
    You have been told this is about the day of the Lord judgments...
    Heb4 :8 silences you anyhow,along with acts20:7 ,1 cor16 mt 28
     
  4. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Indeed! "Day of the LORD" is the day of judgement and destruction. And that is EXACTLY what John was talking about in Rev 1.

    How is that off topic?

    I would be happy to discuss those passages in another thread.
     
  5. jgr

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    Joshua 21
    44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.

    How much more totally conquered than that can you be?
     
  6. Quasar92

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    As I previously replied to you in my post #13, there is no way under the sun the seven seal, seven trumpet, seven bowl judgments can all take place in one day. They are all a part of the 3.5 year, Great Tribulation, Day of the Lord. The use of the word "day," is symbolic as the scriptures reveal in the following.

    Ps.90:4 "A thousand years in your sight
    are like a day that has just gone by,
    or like a watch in the night."

    2 Pet.3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."


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  7. ByTheSpirit

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    “and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.”
    ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

    “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.”
    ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭ESV‬‬

    Revelation 19:11-21
    Lots of OT Prophets
    Matthew 24
    Mark 13
    Luke 21
     
  8. Quasar92

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    As I previously wrote, the Jewish weekly Sabbath is on the seventh day of the Week. Christians, on the other hand worship on the first day of the week, because it was the day of Jesus resurrection from the dead. Technically, it is not a Sabbath, but often times used symbolically, to represent the first day of the week as the day of Christian worship.

    I hope this helps.


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  9. Quasar92

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    Israel has not yet realized all the land God has promised them, as recorded in Gen.15:18-21, posted below:

    “On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates — the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.’


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  10. BABerean2

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    Christ is our Sabbath rest, every day of the week, in the New Covenant.

    Col 2:16  Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 
    Col 2:17  Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 



    Any day that a church body wants to meet is a good day.

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  11. Quasar92

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    The event you refer to above is history, that took place a good 4,000 years ago. The Day of the Lord, the 70th week of Dan.9:27, the Olivet Discourse of Jesus, in Mt.24; Mk.13 nd Lk.21 has not yet taken place. When it does, Israel is going to lose 2/3 or their present day population, as recorded in Zwch.13:8.


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  12. BABerean2

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    That land is given to the descendant of Abraham.
    He is the "heir" to the land.
    He is the "chief cornerstone".



    Mat 1:1  The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 


    Mat 21:37  But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 
    Mat 21:38  But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 
    Mat 21:39  And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 
    Mat 21:40  When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 
    Mat 21:41  They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 
    Mat 21:42  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 
    Mat 21:43  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 

    The kingdom was taken from the nation that rejected the "chief cornerstone" , who is the "heir" to the land.
    The nation that accepted the "chief cornerstone" is found in 1 Peter 2:4-10.



    Paul said below that the promise was made to only one seed, instead of the many seeds, as you are claiming.

    Gal 3:16  Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 



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  13. ICONO'CLAST

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    In hebrews4:8 a different word was used,indeed indicating the keeping of a Sabbath.
    Not the Mosaic rest, but the Lord's day rest
     
  14. jgr

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    That is a flat and indisputable contradiction of Joshua 21:43.

    You've frequently accused others of making God a liar. This is a prime example thereof.
     
  15. jgr

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    It sure is. It is an undeniable historical fulfillment.

    How do any of these invalidate Joshua 21:43?
     
  16. jgr

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    From Judaism Today:
    "And indeed, the number of people in the world today with the “Abrahamic Genetic Signature” is too large to count precisely. A reasonable estimate is in the hundreds of millions."

    So your claim will be incomparably worse in reality.

    Israel's present day population will swell by up to hundreds of millions who are unwitting (and witting) carriers of the “Abrahamic Genetic Signature,” who will be driven involuntarily and inexorably to the land of Israel, where two out of every three will be slaughtered.

    How will the surviving 1/3 dispose of the dead 2/3? Cremation will be the only viable solution. The spectacle will be stupendous.

    Of course, as these poor carriers increasingly become aware of their condition, and their dismal dispensational prophetic prospects, they may rebel, as Jews are inclined to do, before that time arrives.

    But do not question these things, for they are "dispensational truth."
     
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  17. keras

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    Did you bother to look at Judges 1?
    Why did David have to buy the threshing floor; the Temple site, off a Jebusite?
     
  18. jgr

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    The events in Judges follow those in Joshua. There is no question that Israel subsequently relapsed spiritually, and repeatedly suffered defeat as a result. But by the end of Joshua's life, God had fully honored all of His land promises to Israel, and fully subdued all of Israel's enemies, as Joshua 21:43-45 records.
     
  19. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    It was the Israelites that failed to do what God had instructed them. Basically they should have wiped out all those peoples. Genocide, in fact. Deuteronomy 20:15-18 But they disobeyed and allowed many to live, to their eventual downfall.
    The next time, the Lord Himself will totally cleanse the Land. Deuteronomy 32:41-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Isaiah 9:18-19, Psalms 83, Jeremiah 10:18, Amos 1, +
     
  20. jgr

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    Agree; they wouldn't resist temptation.

    The Lord will do whatever He wants with the land, as Christ is its appointed sole heir.

    Hebrews 1
    1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
     
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