What is the Canon?

[Colabomb]

I through study, and prayer, have pretty much come to accept the Roman Catholic Canon.

But I do know that Some Orthodox groups (ethiopians come to mind) accept books such as enoch, and Third Maccabees.

What is the Standard Canon used by the majority of Eastern Orthodoxy?

Thanks in advance for your help!

May the God of Mercies Bless you Richly in the Peace of the Christ!

 

[Rilian]

I believe this site has an accurate table with the information you're looking for.

 

[Biarien]

It seems the columns don't line up properly...

 

[MariaRegina]

I believe this site has an accurate table with the information you're looking for.

Thanks Rilian - great site to visit - and the columns do seem to line up better than other charts that I have seen.

 

[Rilian]

No problem chanter.

Breanainn, do you mean the html table is not rendering correctly for you?

 

[Matthias]

Great website; thanks for sharing it.

Breanainn, perhaps your browser is outdated if everything is mis-aligned?

 

[Biarien]

I meant that under the Historical section, the second colum says "Rejected" next to "1 Esdras" (to the left), but then "1 Esdras" is below the "Rejected" column. If 1 Esdras was rejected, it shouldn't appear in the second column at all, right? So the "Rejected" tile must refer to something else, but it's misaligned. That's not even the worst of the errors either.

That's what it looks like for me. Perhaps it is my browser. I'm running IE 6.0. Is that too old?

 

[Reader Nilus]

There is really no set canon for Orthodox when it comes to the Old Testament.
The Old Testament in the Orthodox Church
Jeff the Finn

 

[Rilian]

Hmmm, I'm not sure what you're seeing Breanainn. The way it looks to me is that 1 Esdras is rejected in the Protestant and Catholic canons and has a footnote with the number one on it because it is one of the Orthodox Anaginoskomena books and is in the accepted canon. I'm not sure what the other errors are you're seeing. I just looked at the site again and it appears that the person who put this list together did correctly ascertain which books are used by which church.

 

[Biarien]

No no no...it's not that the list is wrong, but that the rows are inconsistent.

Look at the row for 2 Esdras. It has 2 Esdras, 1 Esdras (which appears to be Catholic canon from this site, by the way), and Ezra.

IMO, the site should look something like this:

Group....Book Name.....Orthodox.....Catholic.....Protestant

Then under Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant, it would either say Accepted or Rejected.

That way the rows would line up correctly.

 

[Biarien]

Here...this is what I mean. See how it says 1 Esdras for Orthodox, then you go over one to the right, and it says Rejected for Catholics, but then it shows 1 Esdras in the Catholic Canon but a row lower than it should? Does it look like this for anyone else?

Unless those are the same books with different names, but that doesn't seem right. If they are just different names, I ask your forgiveness for my ignorance.

 

[brilliantly_mad_lovin_God]

i am hopelessly new and do not understand many things about posting and chat

 

[Biarien]

If you have any questions, try asking in the Help and Suggestions forum, here: http://christianforums.com/f30

 

[brilliantly_mad_lovin_God]

can you help me?

 

[Biarien]

Um, sure...but make a topic there. This isn't the place to be asking for help.

 

[twex]

Here...this is what I mean. See how it says 1 Esdras for Orthodox, then you go over one to the right, and it says Rejected for Catholics, but then it shows 1 Esdras in the Catholic Canon but a row lower than it should? Does it look like this for anyone else?

I take that to mean that the book known as 2 Esdras among the Orthodox is called 1 Esdras among the Catholics.

 

[Reader Nilus]

It seems that 2 Esdras is Nehemiah in the Catholic Bible. Which is not to be confused with 1 and 2 Esdras which would be 3 and 4 Esdras, but in the Protestant Apocrypha they are known as 1 and 2 Esdras, where the books 1 and 2 Esdras in the above list refer to Ezra and Nehemiah.
Jeff the Finn

 

[prodromos]

Christ is Risen!

I take that to mean that the book known as 2 Esdras among the Orthodox is called 1 Esdras among the Catholics.

That is correct.

What Orthodox call 1 Esdras is missing from the Catholic and Protestant Canons
What Orthodox call 2 Esdras, Catholics call 1 Esdras and Protestants call Ezra
What Orthodox call Nehemiah, Catholics call 2 Esdras while Protestants retain the Orthodox nomenclature.

Bah! I should have refreshed the page before posting

John.

 

[Biarien]

Oh.....

I fell really stupid now.

Though it would be nice if the page mentioned that for ignorami like me.

Thanks for bearing with me all.

 

[Colabomb]

Oh.....

I fell really stupid now.

Though it would be nice if the page mentioned that for ignorami like me.

Thanks for bearing with me all.

Perhaps, I should ask this differently (by the way, I appriciate your help tremendously!)

What do the majority of Orthodox accept?

And what do some of the individual Orthodox on this board accept?

I have been studying the canon for a while, and recently found out that there is more than just "Catholic" and "Prostestant" Bibles.

Thanks, and may the God of Mercies Bless you Richly in the Peace of the Christ!

Christ is Risen!
Indeed He is Risen!