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Ok. You're determined to believe that loving the God who never changes supremely means setting up your own rules and setting aside His commands no matter when He gave them. I can't change your mind as only the HS can do that. It's waaaay above my pay grade.Yes, I'm determined to believe what Scripture presents, unless you can Biblically demonstrate that what I believe is in error.
Not when you set Scripture against itself.Ok. You're determined to believe that loving the God who never changes supremely means setting up your own rules and setting aside His commands no matter when He gave them. I can't change your mind as only the HS can do that. It's waaaay above my pay grade.
I haven't. I live by something called righteousness by faith and God has made his law who I am. It thus comes natural to obey Him. I haven't been doing this for very long, only three or four months as I just discovered it a few months ago but my life has changed greatly. It's easier now to obey Him than disobey Him.Not when you set Scripture against itself.
Keeping in mind that the righteousness (justification) that is by faith is only forensic (dikaiosis), it is not actual.I haven't. I live by something called righteousness by faith
And that is actual righteousness through obedience of faith.and God has made his law who I am. It thus comes natural to obey Him. I haven't been doing this for very long, only three or four months as I just discovered it a few months ago but my life has changed greatly. It's easier now to obey Him than disobey Him.
Wow! Praise God!It was an eyeopener to me as I've believed for decades that sanctification was the work of a lifetime. Why I don't know because when I was converted God released me from the power drugs had over my life. I was a psychologically addicted pot smoker and the hardest part of overcoming an addiction is the psychological addiction as drugs burn out the pleasure center of the brain. I would walk down the sidewalk, pass someone who had been smoking pot, and get all the physical symptoms of being stoned yet I had no desire to get stoned. It was a flat out miracle as I hadn't been without being stoned all day for years. He even gave me my mind back as I was so burned out I couldn't hold down a job pushing a broom and I had once had a pretty remarkable IQ. He restored all that. I owe Him everything I am.
You are mistaken on your assertion that the righteousness of Christ is only justification.Keeping in mind that the righteous (justification) that is by faith is only forensic (dikaiosis), it is not actual.
Actual righteousness is through obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16-19).
And that is actual righteousness through obedience of faith.
Wow! Praise God!
1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Exo 31:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you
In the NT there is:You are mistaken on your assertion that the righteousness of Christ is only justification.
I think we are close to understanding each other. Jesus gives us two types of righteousness, imputed and imparted (sanctification) for as Paul says He is made unto us wisdom, justification, sanctification, and redemption. Yes, we achieve being made like Jesus through the HS but Jesus lives in us through the HS and that is made possible by Jesus' life, death and resurrection.In the NT there is:
1) imputed righteousness (justification, dikaiosis) - the definition of which is a declaration of "not guilty," a sentence of acquittal, a finding of right standing with the Court; i.e., penalty paid, time served, no debt owing.
By definition it is a forensic righteousness, not an actual righteousness.
2) actual righteousness[/ (sanctification) - which is through obedience in the Holy Spirit which leads to righteousness, leading to holiness (Ro 6:16-19).
3) Christ, our righteousness (1 Co 1:30) - who absolves us of our sin/unrighteousness on the cross.
Indeed, we are.I think we are close to understanding each other. Jesus gives us two types of righteousness, imputed and imparted (sanctification) for as Paul says He is made unto us wisdom, justification, sanctification, and redemption. [/B] Yes, we achieve being made like Jesus through the HS but Jesus lives in us through the HS and that is made possible by Jesus' life, death and resurrection.
I would be surprised if you don't, as a Christian, tend to refer to the NT church for method and norm of church activity in most other ways, but for some reason you reject this?That isn't a valid reason. It must be taught in scripture that humanity is justified in setting aside God's law.
God is always correct in everything whether it is in the OT or the NT. One part of the Bible doesn't conflict with another part of the Bible for God doesn't argue with Himself, nor does He give conflicting commands.I would be surprised if you don't, as a Christian, tend to refer to the NT church for method and norm of church activity in most other ways, but for some reason you reject this?
Mat 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
You would have the freedom in Christ remain slave to the law. Ok. Enjoy.God is always correct in everything whether it is in the OT or the NT. One part of the Bible doesn't conflict with another part of the Bible for God doesn't argue with Himself, nor does He give conflicting commands.
You would have the freedom in Christ remain slave to the law. Ok. Enjoy.
2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
That's an odd response. Who's talking about being a slave to the devil?That's an odd response according to Peter.
I would far rather be God's slave than the devil's. He is just and merciful the devil is the opposite.
I did. I don't mind being a slave to God. In fact, I love it. There is no higher calling that I can think of than to call Jesus Master as His disciples did.That's an odd response. Who's talking about being a slave to the devil?
Of course. Why did you bring up being a slave of he devil?I did. I don't mind being a slave to God. In fact, I love it. There is no higher calling that I can think of than to call Jesus Master as His disciples did.
Because Peter tells us that whoever is overcome by someone is in bondage to them. When are overcome and we sin we are in bondage to the devil. It's pretty straightforward.Of course. Why did you bring up being a slave of he devil?
Of course it's straightforward. So what does that have to do with God not contradicting himself in the OT law telling the Children of Israel to observe the Sabbath, and the NT church meeting weekly on the first day of the week?Because Peter tells us that whoever is overcome by someone is in bondage to them. When are overcome and we sin we are in bondage to the devil. It's pretty straightforward.
You misunderstand who I am. I'm not here to debate. I present truth and leave it up to those who disagree with me to accept or reject it. That's what Jesus did and as He is my Master I do the same.Of course it's straightforward. So what does that have to do with God not contradicting himself in the OT law telling the Children of Israel to observe the Sabbath, and the NT church meeting weekly on the first day of the week?
You keep on and on about things we agree on as if it somehow makes your point, but you don't show how it makes your point.
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