What is a seer ?

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Well there are folks with wisdom who are sought after to assist those seeking clarification around life's thorny issues.
There are also some who set themselves up to do this and that is where we have a problem....

But those folks are not prophets or seers in the sense that Samuel or Asaph were. There is a difference between seeking advice and clarification from a mentor or counsellor and going to a Christian prophetic "witch-doctor" to get their fortune told.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I agree, but there is no record that they set themselves up as those with a ministry for others to come to for spiritual guidance, and get their "fortune" told.

I was responding to OP#1, where he though a prophet could only hear, while a seer could only see. Daniel and John as well as Ezekiel could do both.

I'm not talking about Satan's counterfeits.

 

[CharismaticLady]

But those folks are not prophets or seers in the sense that Samuel or Asaph were. There is a difference between seeking advice and clarification from a mentor or counsellor and going to a Christian prophetic "witch-doctor" to get their fortune told.

Like who?

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I was responding to OP#1, where he though a prophet could only hear, while a seer could only see. Daniel and John as well as Ezekiel could do both.

I'm not talking about Satan's counterfeits.

Anyone who sets themselves up as a seer ministry and solicits others to receive prophetic guidance is a counterfeit and is functioning from a demonic familiar spirit in the same way as a witch-doctor or a fortune teller operates.

This is quite different to someone receiving a prophetic word of knowledge, wisdom or encouragement for a fellow believer. Although there is no operating manual for these spiritual gifts, we know that the purpose of the prophetic gifts is to point people to Christ and to enhance their faith in Him.

If a person uses a prophetic gift to exalt himself or the person he speaks to, then he is functioning from a familiar spirit and not from the Holy Spirit, because he is pointing the person away from Christ to himself or to puff up the person he is giving the word to. Any prophetic word could very well include a divination spirit that could bring spiritual or physical harm to the person receiving the prophetic word.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Anyone who sets themselves up as a seer ministry and solicits others to receive prophetic guidance is a counterfeit and is functioning from a demonic familiar spirit in the same way as a witch-doctor or a fortune teller operates.

This is quite different to someone receiving a prophetic word of knowledge, wisdom or encouragement for a fellow believer. Although there is no operating manual for these spiritual gifts, we know that the purpose of the prophetic gifts is to point people to Christ and to enhance their faith in Him.

If a person uses a prophetic gift to exalt himself or the person he speaks to, then he is functioning from a familiar spirit and not from the Holy Spirit, because he is pointing the person away from Christ to himself or to puff up the person he is giving the word to. Any prophetic word could very well include a divination spirit that could bring spiritual or physical harm to the person receiving the prophetic word.

I've never seen shops in America like that. The ones around here have all sorts of occult imagery, like a big eye or hand.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Like who?

People setting up a "seer" ministry is rare down here in NuZild. You might be able to identify some way up there in the US of A. There is a book describing the ministry of Seer, but I have not been able to source a copy to see what it says. Probably a blessing because even reading stuff about it could bring about a spiritual attack.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I've never seen shops in America like that. The ones around here have all sorts of occult imagery, like a big eye or hand.

Here is a book on Amazon:

The Seer & Healing: The Seer Gift and the Ministry of Healing (The Seer Series) (Volume 2) 1st Edition
by Fred L. Raynaud (Author).

I have my doubts about it.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I've never seen shops in America like that. The ones around here have all sorts of occult imagery, like a big eye or hand.

It's midnight now, so my coach has turned into a pumpkin, so I'm off to bed. Thanks everyone for such a stimulating and respectful discussion!

 

[paul1149]

“(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)”
‭‭1 Samuel‬ ‭9:9‬ ‭

The verse says they are pretty much interchangeable. BDB has seer as more of a literal term - one who sees with the eyes. So it was beieng used metaphorically for one who can see spiritual things. But at some point the dedicated term, prophet, took its place for that usage.

 

[t4inted-]

Would you consider Agabus a seer?

Are we just being caught up in words.

I’m not sure who else were seers.. I only noticed Asaph and Samuel

 

[t4inted-]

Can anyone tell me what this is ?

I believe I’ve gotten a word for my pastor by the Holy Spirit that the Holy Spirit wanted me to tell him..

This is what happened..

As my pastor was preaching before the end of the service I seen a scripture that came upon his head and in the spirit there was holiness revolving around his head with this scripture

This was the scripture

“So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.”
‭‭John‬ ‭21:15-17‬

I didn’t really know what it meant at first but I told my pastor it but I later knew what it meant..

That God wanted him to feed his sheep and be like a shepherd to them...and that holiness would grow in the church

since I told him about this what the Holy Spirit showed me He began to take more care of the church and of its members..

was this like prophecy ?

 

[Carl Emerson]

1 Sam 9.9
8 The servant answered him again. “Look,” he said “I have here in my hand a quarter shekel of silver. I will give it to the man of God, and he will tell us our way.” 9 (Formerly in Israel, a man on his way to inquire of God would say, “Come, let us go to the seer,” for the prophet of today was formerly called the seer.) 10 “Good,” said Saul to his servant. “Come, let us go.” So they set out for the city where the man of God was.…

2 Sam 24:11
10 After David had numbered the troops, his conscience was stricken and he said to the LORD, “I have sinned greatly in what I have done. Now, O LORD, I beg You to take away the iniquity of Your servant, for I have acted very foolishly.” 11 When David got up in the morning, a revelation from the LORD had come to Gad the prophet, David’s seer: 12“Go and tell David that this is what the LORD says: ‘I am offering you three options. Choose one of them, and I will carry it out against you.’”


1 Sam 8:18
17 When Samuel saw Saul, the LORD told him, “Here is the man of whom I spoke; he shall rule over My people.” 18 Saul approached Samuel in the gateway and asked, “Would you please tell me where the seer's house is?” 19 “I am the seer,” Samuel replied. “Go up before me to the high place, for you shall eat with me today. And when I send you off in the morning, I will tell you all that is in your heart.…

Amos 7:12
11 for this is what Amos has said: ‘Jeroboam will die by the sword, and Israel will surely go into exile, away from her homeland.’” 12 And Amaziah said to Amos, “Go away, you seer! Flee to the land of Judah; earn your bread there and do your prophesying there, 13 But never prophesy at Bethel again, because it is the sanctuary of the king and the temple of the kingdom.”…

Then there is Hemen, Hanani, Jehu... the list goes on and on...

These were legit ministries that God used in OT times.

 

[sea5763]

nvm

 

[tturt]

Referring to God's prophets and seers - All seers are prophets but not all prophets are seers.

Just means the information from the Lord is received primarily in a particular way. "I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me..." Hab 2:1

There are some changes between Old and New Testament prophets but there not being seers isn't one of them.

 

[tturt]

Also, "And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked: The same heard Paul speak: who steadfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed, Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked." Acts 14:8-10

 

[Christopher0121]

What is a seer?

There has been enough Scripture presented for everyone to know that the term "seer" is biblical. A seer is an anointed person who primarily receives a word from the Lord through visions or dreams. A prophet primarily hears the word of the Lord or feels the Lord's message as an impression of the Spirit. I say "primarily" because prophets can receive visions, and seers can receive a word.

I remember when my fiancé was working at a local St. Vincent de Paul as a cashier. One day she called me frantic because she had lost the zippered envelope she placed her cash drawer's money in when she cashed out the night before. She said that she had put it in the vault the previous evening. However the manager and assistant manager stated that when they went to get the envelope for the bank run, it wasn't to be found. My fiancé was overcome with panic when she checked the safe and found that it wasn't there. So, she began crying and praying. She then stated that God told her to call me and that I would tell her where it was. So, in her call she's frantically explaining that there's talk that they think she might have stolen it and was going to be fired. She desperately needed this job and was a mess. I helped her calm down and breathe. I was put on the spot because generally visions come unexpectedly. However, I felt if the Lord told her to call me... then the Lord will provide the vision.

We prayed and I asked the Lord to show me where the envelope was. I simply relaxed and I began to get "snap shots" of the safe and the inside layout. I began explaining what God was showing me... a large section with a shelf like top on the right, with a smaller section with a series of several shelves on the right. She confirmed every bit of the vision. I saw the paper receipts laying haphazardly on the self. The Lord then showed me that there was a small section of space between both sides of the safe. It was just like a "snap shot" and there I saw the bluish green envelope of money laying below a bent older large yellow paper manila envelope that was bent in such a way that it obscured one's vision of the envelope of money when looking down from the top. Please understand... she had me on speaker phone at the safe... with her manager and her assistant manager listening. Her manager then leaned a bit into the safe and looked down between the two compartments, reached into the shadow of the space, pulled out a yellow manila envelope, reached back in and I could hear her say, "I'll d**mned.", and pulled out the blue green envelop of money. Christina began crying and praising God while her managers were laughing like they they didn't know what else to do. Christina began thanking me and blowing me kisses and as her manager thanked me and they all said bye to me over the speaker phone (I'd gotten to know her manager and the staff after volunteering to help with the food pantry for the needy.).

You might get visions that play like movies in your mind, or snap shots. You might get a panoramic vision like you're in the very vision itself. Or it might seem like it is playing out in the air in front of you, or in the sky above you.

Often the gifts of the Holy Spirit function through visions. What I had with the envelope was a "word of knowledge" through vision. God imparted knowledge to me about something I'd never seen in a place where I wasn't physically present. It could have come as an impression in my spirit or as a still small voice in my head. But with me it often comes through visions. One can receive a "word of knowledge" or a "word of wisdom" and even "discern spirits" through a vision. What you see might be about a person, place, or circumstance. It might be about the present, the past, or even the future. One simply must have the Holy Spirit and have faith... it only takes a little faith, not much at all really... and then just surrender to the flow of the Holy Spirit. This "ministry" (if one wished to call it that) can bring great peace, joy, and hope to others. I've learned that it is best practiced without much fanfare. Once you have a reputation, people will seek you out. And you can offer to meet them for coffee or even in your home if you feel the Holy Spirit impressing upon you to give them counsel. You can even make house calls. You might prefer to bring a pen and pad of paper and write down what snap-shots you see during your time of prayer and waiting on the Lord. Then you can discuss the list of snap-shots or images after the visions stop. And NO... do not charge any fees.

 

[tturt]

Some regard seers as a term used for prophets for just a period of time.. But there are Scriptures that indicate otherwise such as:
"Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not..." (Isa 30:10). "For when David was up in the morning, the word of the Lord came unto the prophet Gad, David's seer, saying," (II Sam 14:11). Samuel identified himself as a seer (I Sam 9:19). "Also Amaziah said unto Amos, O thou seer, go, flee thee away into the land of Judah, and there eat bread, and prophesy there:" Amos 7:12 All the prophets and seers were saying the same thing - pointing people to God or considered the same such as II Kings 17:13; II Chron 29:25; Isa 29:10.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

I know they are able to see in the spirit..and I think a seer is also a prophet?
But a seer sees while the other kind of prophet hears with their ears..

I think the Hebrew is raa’sh ?
I know the other one is Nabiy I think..

What is a seer ? Can anyone describe what a seer is ?

To my knowledge, and based on the Bible verses you mentioned, I think that a seer is what some prophets of the OT were called in the past but later they were changed to "Prophet" to not confuse with occultists.

 

[tturt]

There you have it Some look at Scriptures and see things one way while others look at Scriptures and see it differently.

 

[ARBITER01]

I know they are able to see in the spirit..and I think a seer is also a prophet?
But a seer sees while the other kind of prophet hears with their ears..

I think the Hebrew is raa’sh ?
I know the other one is Nabiy I think..

What is a seer ? Can anyone describe what a seer is ?

Seer was just another name for a Prophet in the OT. Nothing more, nothing less.