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Featured What is a born again christian and can I be one?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Chgz, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Light of the East

    Light of the East Orthodox Inquirer Supporter

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    Salvation is by faith. No works are needed. But eternal life is not salvation. And Jesus says that at the Last Judgment, He will reward with eternal life those who have done good works (Matthew 25: 31-46, Romans 2: 5-10, John 5: 28-29, and Rev. 20: 12-14). So you are half right. Salvation is free and without works. Eternal life is dependent upon what we do.
     
  2. hiphopopotomus

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    The essence of Christianity is that it requires self sacrifice.It is not about what it can do for me but more about what I can do for others.Nobody has a monopoly on that.
     
  3. Ian16

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    Hi check out my website right here http://www.iansideas.com and find the post. How I came to know Jesus. You can come to know Jesus today
     
  4. enigmadi

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    What you speak of is "religion" while we are called by the Word to come to God in a personal relationship. One must search His Word prayerfully, testing what one hears in church against His inspired Word. No one is capable in this life of knowing the fullness of God yet we are invited to lay Dow self and turn to Him.
     
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  6. enigmadi

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    Even Satan and his demons "believe"... " FAITH is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1.
     
  7. ToBeLoved

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    Born again is a reference to being 'spiritually' born again into the family of Jesus Christ.

    We are born 'physically' into this world by our mothers, but we are born again spiritually when we enter the family of Jesus Christ. When we are spiritually born again, our sins are forgiven and we become 'new' creation in Jesus Christ.

    This article will give you the scriptural references and more information, it explains it very well (much better than I could in the morning) http://www.gotquestions.org/born-again.html
     
  8. AlexDTX

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    The new birth is the transformation of your life by the entrance of the Holy Spirit into your heart. This comes when these things happen in your heart: you see your need for a Saviour; you believe that Jesus is God who became the Saviour; and you believe that Jesus both died for your sins and was resurrected from the dead. When you believe these things in your heart you then need to ask him to come into your heart believing that He will.

    Theologically speaking (and the reality of what happens) is that we die with Christ by his faith and are raised with Christ. This happens in our spirits, not our bodies, though. The giving of the Spirit into our hearts is considered by God to be a pledge of his promise that we will also be bodily resurrected at Christ's return.

    Faith does not save us. Nor does grace. Faith has to be in His grace. Grace is the gift of life already available to anyone who wants it, but it is not given automatically. It your your faith in His grace that acquires salvation. The new birth is the very presence of God in your heart. God becomes your constant companion and goes through all your life experiences with you. He intervenes in your life on his own initiative in some things, and in others waits for you to seek him in the matter. This is our relationship with him and is the basis of that peace and joy you saw in those born again Christians in that show.
     
  9. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    It depends on what what means. The term "born again Christian" is a term that came into vogue in the United States in the mid 20th century as a result of the Neo-Evangelical Movement. But the idea of being born again, what is often called in theological discussion regeneration (which, really, just means to be "born again") has always been part of Christian thought. Though for most of Christian history the new birth has been identified with the Christian Sacrament of Baptism, this thinking comes from certain key biblical passages, such as John 3:5 and Titus 3:5.

    In John 3:5 Jesus is having a discussion with Nicodemus, this is where Jesus says that if anyone wants to enter God's kingdom they must be "born again" or "born from above", Nicodemus is confused and asks how a man can be born again and if he must re-enter his mother's womb. Jesus clarifies by saying, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." this phrase "born of water and the Spirit" has been understood by most Christians throughout history as referring to Baptism, where there is both water and the Holy Spirit (c.f. Acts 2:38, 1 Corinthians 12:12-13)

    St. Paul in Titus 3:4-5 writes,

    "But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy, through the water of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit."

    If one then looks at what Christians have written over the last two thousand years, from those who lived immediately after the Apostles until now, they consistently speak of Baptism as the new birth, where we are united to Christ in His death and resurrection, made new creations, forgiven our sins, etc.

    So from a traditional Christian perspective--agreed upon by Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox, Anglicans, etc--your baptism makes you born again, and so you are already a born again Christian. Every baptized Christian has received this new birth from God, as a free gift, apart from our works.

    Though many modern Christians, mostly Evangelicals, have a different understanding of what the new birth is, which is what I imagine you will hear a lot of in answer to your question. But I thought it was worth to offer what the consistent and historic Christian understanding is. If you were baptized then you belong to God, therefore trust in Christ you belong to Him, and no power on earth can separate you from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:38-39), this is His promise to you, and it is Gospel; Christ suffered, died, and rose again, for you, and so you are truly and freely forgiven, believe this good news.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  10. 1213

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    I agree with you, righteousness doesn’t come by actions. It can come by hearing what Jesus said.

    And if person is righteous, it will show in his actions.

    He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
    1 John 3:7-10
     
  11. Dave B

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  12. Kutte

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    One can be born again in many ways, it has to do with a change in attitude, belief. I once met a former Christian who was upset with many teachings the Christian religion has to offer. What happened? He became a born again Atheist.

    Oh well, Kutte
     
  13. Dave B

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    Our mission on earth is to share in God's Heavenly Kingdom and a life with Him for all eternity. Adam and Eve sinned and they became separated from God and became slaves to sin. They suffered death and lost the right to eternal life.

    A covenant is not only an agreement and contract with God, but it is making an oath to God. As God as also a partner in a covenant, what God agrees to, He cannot take back. God cannot go back on His word. If He did so He would commit a lie and God cannot go against Himself and His true nature. an example of a covenant is the Sacrament of marriage. It performed by 3 persons with the participation of Jesus, the bride and the groom. It is asking God to verify what you have taken an oath to.

    Christianity was founded by Jesus, who was a Jew and with 12 Jews that we call Apostles. It is a Jewish faith that was made available to all humanity. It shares its history with the Israelites.

    The Old Testament foreshadows the events of the New Testament. In the Old Testament Book, "Exodus", salvation is foreshadowed with the Israelites, after crossing the Red Sea, the Israelites died of the old life of slavery in Egypt and given a new life of freedom. The men were circumcised as a symbol of accepting a new covenant with God.

    The Old Testament was fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament. With Baptism (through Jesus), we become reconciled to the Father and die from the old life of slavery of sin. We become new creature and given a new eternal life. Baptism is to the new perfected covenant what circumcision was in the Old Testament.

    A "born again Christian" is one who accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior and repents of his/her sins and becomes reborn by entering a new covenant by the Sacrament of Baptism.

    A Sacrament is an act or ritual that was performed with Jesus presence while He was on earth. By taking part in these events, Sacraments were instituted.
     
  14. sparow

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    There is a religious sect called "Born again Christians", whether they are born again only God would know. Being born again is an experience, a transformation and is probably the same thing as receiving the Holy Spirit; this enables us tho use the pronouns, we and us when talking about the kingdom of God; the kingdom of God is among us or we are saved. Jesus explains being born again and that explanation is a type of which the resurrection of the righteous to eternal life on the last day is the anti-type
     
  15. Just Ben

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    Hey great question. Your story sounds similar to mine. I went to the way of spirituality and always categorized myself as a spiritualist until I was 21. I had gotten sick and fed up with everything in this world even religion. One night I prayed and asked God to send me someone to show me the way back to him. I admired being too stupid to handling my own life and send God to just show me if he was real and if so to show me a way to Him.
    About 3 days later a man from Nepal started working with me. At first I didn't like this gut but long story short; he showed me things and shared things with me about myself that he had no way of knowing.
    Basically to be born again you have to admit to God that he is going to be in control of your life and not you. That's the scary first step. Then you have to reject everything in this world you were ever taught to believe and be open minded and soft hearted and receptive to the Gospel. Being a try believer means that you believe Jesus is literally alive and is the Messiah that was the only capable human to die for your wrongs. He rose again to show us that if we follow him that we to will have that glorious redirection.
    The extreme joy and peace you saw were Christians that are spiritually mature. I didn't experience this until a couple of years after giving up my life. The scariest thing in this world is being able to give up this life for the sake of Gods kingdom. The peace I have is from the unconditional love God has for us. He loves us more than even our own earthly parents do. I have faith that Gods love will never be taken away from me. Faith comes from constant prayer and fasting. Also being a christian means you'll have to endure longsuffering until the day you die. This suffering is even considered a joy to a true christian.
    I literally wanted to die; so I decided to follow Jesus. Now I have a new life that is beautiful with new friends and everyday is a new hope in Jesus. Isn't that odd that I went from wanting to die to having a life full of joy and peace?
    Don't get me wrong I have many struggles in this world. I have a lot of things that I suffer. I get rejected by even my own family. But; now this is a big but; But the peace and joy is an inward joy. Its like joy and peace just comes of my heart as naturally as I breathe. I don't have the feeling of being weighed down with guilt or shame any more.
    Yes you can have that experience but you have to be genuine with God. You have to mean what you pray and you must pray as often as possible. Not because you have to but because you want to.
    Sorry for so many words.
    Pray to God and pray often.
     
  16. Just Ben

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    Typos:
    I meant to say; I admitted to God that I was too stupid and asked him to send someone to show me the way. Sorry about that, auto correct strikes again.
     
  17. shakewell

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    All you have to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. You don't have to do anything else (such as go to church or go through any ritual). Salvation is a free gift through Jesus; He paid the full price for your sin on the cross.
     
  18. ToBeLoved

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    How is that so?

    Born again is used in the Bible, which is why a lot of Christians use this term.

    There is no born again atheist.
     
  19. Light of the East

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    Nope. Our understanding comes through the congregation of God, aka "the Church." It was that way in the Old Covenant and it is that way in the New Covenant. God works through his community, not through Lone Rangers who get some sort of "revelation" which opposes centuries of established Christian belief that goes back to the Apostles.

    Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Notice that the promise that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Says nothing about the individual being immune from deception and deceit. And given the long history of heretics who have come and gone, we can see that this promise indeed is not to individuals.

    1Ti 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    The Church is the pillar and ground of truth, not the individual. There is no promise to any individual in the world that he or she will be the pillar and ground of truth. In other words, the Holy Spirit speaks through the Church and not through the delusions of individuals.

    The hundreds of differing doctrines of Protestantism, all claiming to be from the Holy Spirit and the Bible and all contradicting each other, is moot testimony to this fact.
     
  20. ToBeLoved

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    God answers prayer! Amen brother or sister!
     
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