What if Jesus had been executed by lethal injection?

[Robban]

The Torah was with the angels, they did not want to let go of it.

When Moses acsended to recieve it, they screamed,
"What is a human doing here."

 

[Robban]

I have or have had the whole story,
not sure at this moment if was not destroyed in the boat fire last year.

Maybe I should look for it.

 

[cloudyday2]

So taking the mark of the beast would be an option.

Absolutely! (especially if it came with several packages of toilet paper)

 

[timothyu]

Absolutely! (especially if it came with several packages of toilet paper)

Yeah, they would need it where they are going.

 

[Robban]

The first time "Jew" appears in scripture is in the book of Esther, Mordechai the Jew.
If I recall correct Mordechai was not of Judah tribe

There came once a man to the Rebbe and told him of his achievements, that he had gathered together
several Jews that had no background.

The Rebbe was not happy and told the man very sternly,

"There is no such thing as a Jew without a background,
every Jews background is,
Abraham and Sarah,
Isaac and Rebbeca,
Jacob and Lea, Rachel.

The entire people of Israel comprise a singel soul,
only the bodies seperate.

Though Mordechai was a Benjaminite he is called Yehudi
(Jew) which literally means a descendent of the tribe of
Yehuda (Judah).

Likewise throughout the Megillan the entire people are called Yehudim without distinction of tribal origin.

 

[cloudyday2]

Though Mordechai was a Benjaminite he is called Yehudi
(Jew) which literally means a descendent of the tribe of
Yehuda (Judah).

Likewise throughout the Megillan the entire people are called Yehudim without distinction of tribal origin.

How is the lineage traced - through mother or father?

 

[timothyu]

Likewise throughout the Megillan the entire people are called Yehudim without distinction of tr?ibal origin.

Was that not to their living in Judah rather than Israel to the north?

 

[Robban]

How is the lineage traced - through mother or father?

Tribal through father,
Jewish through mother.

 

[Robban]

Was that not to their living in Judah rather than Israel to the north?

Not sure what you mean.
Wonder where the question mark in the word tribal came from, in what you quoted,

 

[cloudyday2]

Tribal through father,
Jewish through mother.

How about the following scenario?
- father's father is Jewish from tribe of Benjamin
- father's mother is Gentile
- mother is Jewish from tribe of Dan

The father of the child is not Jewish because the father's mother is a Gentile, but the father is still of the tribe of Benjamin because the father's father is of that tribe.

Would the child be Jewish of the tribe of Benjamin due to the mother being Jewish even though the father is not?

 

[Robban]

I have or have had the whole story,
not sure at this moment if was not destroyed in the boat fire last year.
to heaven,

Maybe I should look for it.

Story time.
When Moses ascended to heaven,
the angels protested to G-d,
"What is a human being doing amongst us?"
Said He to them,
"He has come to recieve the Torah."

Said they to Him,
"The esotoric treasure,
which was hidden with You for nine hundred and seventy four generations before the world was created.
You wish to give to flesh and blood........?"

"What is man that You are mindful of him,
and the son of man that You take notice of him?"

Said G-d to Moses,
"Answer them."
Said Moses,
"Master of the universe! I fear lest they consume me
with the breath of their mouths."

Said G-d to Moses,
"Hold onto the throne of glory,
and return them an answer."

"Have you descended to Egypt?"
Asked Moses of the angels.
"Have you been enslaved to Pharaoh?"
"So why should the Torah be yours?.

Said Moses,
"Master of the universe;
This Torah You are giving me, what is written in it?

"I am the L-rd your G-d,
who has taken you out from the land of Egypt"

"What else does it say?"

"You shall have no others gods,
do you dwell among idol worshipping nations?"

"What else does it say?"
"Remember the Shabbat day,
do you work?"
"What else say"
"Do not swear falsely,
do you do buisness?"

"What else does say?"
"Honour your father and mother,
do you have parents?"

"What else?"
"Do murder,
do not commit adultery,
do not steal,
is their jelousy among you?
Do you have an evil inclination?"

Straight away the angels conceded to G-d..........
and each one was moved to befriend Moses and
transmit something to him.

Even the angel of death too confided his secret to him.

 

[Robban]

How about the following scenario?
- father's father is Jewish from tribe of Benjamin
- father's mother is Gentile
- mother is Jewish from tribe of Dan

The father of the child is not Jewish because the father's mother is a Gentile, but the father is still of the tribe of Benjamin because the father's father is of that tribe.

There is reason to bemuddle with that kind of reasonig,
when the Messiah appears he knows exactly where each belong, and will place them there.
Would the child be Jewish of the tribe of Benjamin due to the mother being Jewish even though the father is not?

 

[timothyu]

Have today's Jewish people assumed the mantle for all of the House of Israel?

 

[Robban]

Have today's Jewish people assumed the mantle for all of the House of Israel?

G-d instructs Ezekiel to take two sticks and write on one;
"For Judah and for the children of Israel his companions."
And on the other one;
"For Joseph and the stick of Ephraim and all the House of Israel his companions."

After doing this he was told to put the two together,
And G-d fused them into one stick.

These sticks are symbolic of the House of Israel.
The fusing of the two sticks represented the merging of the Kingdoms that will transpire during the Messanic Era.
With the Messiah a descendant of David at the helm.

 

[timothyu]

These sticks are symbolic of the House of Israel.
The fusing of the two sticks represented the merging of the Kingdoms that will transpire during the Messanic Era.
With the Messiah a descendant of David at the helm.

Yes but have the Jews assumed the mantle, claiming to represent all?

 

[Robban]

Yes but have the Jews assumed the mantle, claiming to represent all?

I do not understand your question.

What do you mean by all?

Otherwise it not so much what anyone assumes, but how it will be.

 

[timothyu]

What do you mean by all?

As I said, all 12 tribes of Israel.

 

[Robban]

As I said, all 12 tribes of Israel.

Well, it depends on who you ask.
Some mean the 10 lost tribes have gone and never coming back.
Others mean they are being gathered in while we speak.

But as in the prophesy of the prophet Ezekiel that I posted;
"G-d fused them into one stick."

And will be during the Messianic Era.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Would that have worked theologically?

With errant theology, sure. Man can make 'anything' work....

Scripturally, no.

 

[timothyu]

Some mean the 10 lost tribes have gone and never coming back.
Others mean they are being gathered in while we speak.

But again, are the Jews claiming to represent all 12 tribes?