What if I accidentally said the Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

[PARCmd]

How can you convince yourself that you've been forgiven?

 

[Jayangel81]

By trusting in Gods promises.

1John 1-9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1corinthians 1-9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Dont you understand whats going on? God doesnt need to forgive you for the blasphemies, they were uncontrolable thoughts brought on by youre illness.

Its time you forgave yourself, my brother.

 

[HeatherG]

How can you convince yourself that you've been forgiven?

Dear Parc,

We are not forgiven because we convince ourselves; we are forgiven because God says that we are. Have you read John 3:16 lately? How about Romans 10:9? Do you think that it inadvertently slipped God's mind that you were going to have religious OCD when He commanded these verses to be included in the Bible? Oh, wait a minute, I know what you're going to say: these verses apply to everyone else in the world except you. I've been there and done that too, and so have half the people on this board. I know the story too well. Let's see, what happens in the next chapter? The absolute terror that you have committed the unpardonable sin wears off just a little bit as you convince yourself that there might be just a tiny ray of hope that you might be saved. Maybe, just maybe that wasn't what was meant by the unpardonable sin. Then, wham! You are hit by a new, slightly different version of the previous thought. Only, this time, it really is THE unpardonable sin. The previous thought was nothing in comparison. This is the one that means certain doom. And so the cycle goes on.

Does this sound familiar? It's OCD. Yes, it's torture, but it's not real. Please, Parc, go to a doctor and get help. Seeking reassurance is perpetuating the cycle and making it worse. Believe the Bible and believe that God knew what He was doing when He created you. Don't believe the OCD. And stop looking for a theological answer for a medical problem. When you get the right treatment for the illness you will feel better spiritually too. Go and find some specialist help. What are you waiting for? Go! Go!

Heather

 

[PARCmd]

Hi.

If I accidentally said that "All phrases saying that the 'Holy Spirit is ****', I put a not after it".

Is this blasphemy (If the asterisk is the name of the enemy?).

Sorry, I need to ask. I'm having thoughts of being damned all day long and wishing I wasn't even born.

 

[gracealone]

Dear Parc,

We are not forgiven because we convince ourselves; we are forgiven because God says that we are. Have you read John 3:16 lately? How about Romans 10:9? Do you think that it inadvertently slipped God's mind that you were going to have religious OCD when He commanded these verses to be included in the Bible? Oh, wait a minute, I know what you're going to say: these verses apply to everyone else in the world except you. I've been there and done that too, and so have half the people on this board. I know the story too well. Let's see, what happens in the next chapter? The absolute terror that you have committed the unpardonable sin wears off just a little bit as you convince yourself that there might be just a tiny ray of hope that you might be saved. Maybe, just maybe that wasn't what was meant by the unpardonable sin. Then, wham! You are hit by a new, slightly different version of the previous thought. Only, this time, it really is THE unpardonable sin. The previous thought was nothing in comparison. This is the one that means certain doom. And so the cycle goes on.

Does this sound familiar? It's OCD. Yes, it's torture, but it's not real. Please, Parc, go to a doctor and get help. Seeking reassurance is perpetuating the cycle and making it worse. Believe the Bible and believe that God knew what He was doing when He created you. Don't believe the OCD. And stop looking for a theological answer for a medical problem. When you get the right treatment for the illness you will feel better spiritually too. Go and find some specialist help. What are you waiting for? Go! Go!

Heather

Great Post Heather!!... and yes I wholly agree - Parc it's high time you get some professional help for this miserable disorder. You won't regret it.
Mitzi

 

[gracealone]

Hi.

If I accidentally said that "All phrases saying that the 'Holy Spirit is ****', I put a not after it".

Is this blasphemy (If the asterisk is the name of the enemy?).

Sorry, I need to ask. I'm having thoughts of being damned all day long and wishing I wasn't even born.

I'm so sorry Parc, but that's exactly how OCD makes us feel when it's out of control.
If you can't stop the urge to fight the intrusive/unwanted thoughts/statements by doing the compulsive activities of putting a "not" after the spike or seeking reassurance then this viscious cycle won't stop. Most of us need help with this. I sought professional help as well as went on meds. to dampen down the anxiety response and to help with the co-committent depression that accompanies it. I'm so glad I did even though it really terrified me to do so.
Please seek out help - start by going to a GP and see if you can get referred to a psychologist.
I haven't stopped praying for you buddy. God has not abandoned you even though it feels that way because of the OCD.
Mitzi

 

[jc9992]

Hi.

If I accidentally said that "All phrases saying that the 'Holy Spirit is ****', I put a not after it".

Is this blasphemy (If the asterisk is the name of the enemy?).

Sorry, I need to ask. I'm having thoughts of being damned all day long and wishing I wasn't even born.

Yeah Parcmd you need to go to a psych, you obviously cant handle this on your own or by faith, so its time you gets meds to help you sort it out.

 

[PARCmd]

But going to a psych won't reverse the things which I have said anyway.

 

[JammyStar]

You dont have to reverse them... thats your OCD making you think they need to be reversed.

 

[Jayangel81]

After you get into a psche theyll put you onto meds and it will calm youre thoughts down. What do you think Jesus would say?

He would tell you to seek a doctor out, at least try it

 

[jc9992]

But going to a psych won't reverse the things which I have said anyway.

Didnt you say your not sure if you said them or not?

 

[gracealone]

But going to a psych won't reverse the things which I have said anyway.

No Parc,
None of us get to have our thoughts reversed - managing OCD teaches you to let go of the compulsive activity of trying over and over to reverse them, cancel them etc. Even John Bunyan learned this - he finally just ignored his blasphemous thoughts and just walked on in his determination to serve Christ. He even had them intruded on him while he would be preaching.
OCD thoughts don't need reversing because they aren't valid. Thinking them or having them crop up in our minds isn't tantamount to what we really believe.
They certainly feel threatening because of our messed up brain chemistry and this is what needs to be addressed. Hope you'll take the step toward getting help. You have a lot of evidence here on this forum that getting the right help is what needs to be done.
Just do it.
Praying for you,
Mitzi

 

[PARCmd]

Didnt you say your not sure if you said them or not?

There are some instances I'm pretty sure I've accidentally blurted them out, especially the renunciations...

 

[Jayangel81]

Did i just read accidently? Hi OCD

 

[ArmorofGod18]

Hello I'm recently new here.

I may have almost accidentally said something against the HS.

Two nights ago I was attacked by Satan, he was using lustful thoughts on me. As I was about to rebuke him, I almost (not fully) rebuke the HS. I manage to stop myself from saying the sentence I was so scaryed that I got my knees and prayed like there was no tomorrow asking God to forgive me. I didn't mean to say it. Now I don't know if I did or did not blasphemy the HS.

 

[kaykay9.0]

Hello I'm recently new here.

I may have almost accidentally said something against the HS.

Two nights ago I was attacked by Satan, he was using lustful thoughts on me. As I was about to rebuke him, I almost (not fully) rebuke the HS. I manage to stop myself from saying the sentence I was so scaryed that I got my knees and prayed like there was no tomorrow asking God to forgive me. I didn't mean to say it. Now I don't know if I did or did not blasphemy the HS.

You didn't. This over concern about this CAN be a sign of OCD. When I was young, my OCD struggles used to center in some of these areas. This particular area doesn't bother me anymore because I realize now that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is not something that can be done by accident or by someone who's heart is still tender or open to the things of God. Most theologians/pastors offer a "rule of thumb" about this that I agree with~~ "If you have any concern that you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, you HAVEN"T!"

It's the OCD tendencies that often make us "legalistic" about applying the Word of God if that makes any sense.
Hugs and prayers~~
kk

 

[kaykay9.0]

Did i just read accidently? Hi OCD

"Hi, OCD!" LOL! That's cute, Jay ...and oh, so true!!!

 

[ArmorofGod18]

So I didn't go against the Holy Spirit? So I'm still saved?

 

[kaykay9.0]

So I didn't go against the Holy Spirit? So I'm still saved?

No, you didn't blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Since you may be struggling with OCD, my personal assurance may not mean much to you. But for what it's worth, I used to have those kind of fears too. I only got them under control when I really began to believe and know at deep levels that, as I said earlier, the sin against the Holy Spirit is not committed by someone who is concerned about it. This is my opinion, but also the opinion of myriads of theologians, Bible scholars and pastors too. It doesnt happen accidentally. Again, if you're worried about it, you haven't done it. I think the whole counsel of the Bible supports the fact that God is willing to forgive anyone who is still able and willing to repent. (They haven't turned totally away from God and their heart is not totally.
hardened towards God.) And even some people in that state will eventually heed God's call and turn to Him.

 

[ArmorofGod18]

Thank God and can you pray for me?