What I Would Like to See

[ChrisCarol]

I believe this: Deuteronomy 1815 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.

Matthew 17

The Transfiguration

1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” 6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified. 7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.” 8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus.

I have all I need.

 

[ChrisCarol]

Originally Posted by ChrisCarol

I believe this: Deuteronomy 1815 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.
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I have two words for you.... Ellen White.

Or are you waiting for another to come along....

Interesting, when I asked on Just Curious how many of you use only the Bible you and all your group said "only the Bible" now when the Bible is presented for my answer you have two words for me.

May God be glorified.

 

[Stryder06]

Originally Posted by ChrisCarol

I believe this: Deuteronomy 1815 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.
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Interesting, when I asked on Just Curious how many of you use only the Bible you and all your group said "only the Bible" now when the Bible is presented for my answer you have two words for me.

May God be glorified.

You didn't provide an answer. You made a statement that addressed nothing, as usual. And you didn't ask if we used only the bible in regards to all things. We believe Ellen was used by Christ to deliver a message of reform to a church gone rogue. Ellen is secondary to the bible, as was shown in your Just Curious thread, but she is not excluded.

 

[ChrisCarol]

Originally Posted by ChrisCarol

I believe this: Deuteronomy 1815 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.


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You didn't provide an answer. You made a statement that addressed nothing, as usual. And you didn't ask if we used only the bible in regards to all things. We believe Ellen was used by Christ to deliver a message of reform to a church gone rogue. Ellen is secondary to the bible, as was shown in your Just Curious thread, but she is not excluded.

Your are correct, "I" did not provide an answer. I let God provide it as I most always do. He gave us His Word so that we should not have to look to others for understanding.

I am very sorry that you feel like the statement I made, which I am not sure is "I believe this" or " “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him." didn't address anything and I am sorry you cannot talk to me like I am worthy rather than belittleing me.

 

[Stryder06]

Originally Posted by ChrisCarol

I believe this: Deuteronomy 1815 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.


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Your are correct, "I" did not provide an answer. I let God provide it as I most always do. He gave us His Word so that we should not have to look to others for understanding.

I am very sorry that you feel like the statement I made, which I am not sure is "I believe this" or " “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him." didn't address anything and I am sorry you cannot talk to me like I am worthy rather than belittleing me.

I'm not belittling you. I've made a straight comment, which you seem unable, or unwilling to do. Your quote from Deut has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Christ is the Prophet that was raised up like unto Moses, but Christ wasn't the only prophet. Do you believe in the words of Isaiah and Jeremiah? Do you believe in the visions given to the Apostle John? Do you believe in the words written by Daniel? Do you believe the bible when it says that in the last days there would be dreamers and prophets?

 

[ricker]

You can't be serious...

Rev 1:1-3
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And where is this quote written? In the book of encouragement written in code.

Serious? My assertion is pretty much standard belief among Christians.

 

[ricker]

That's dangerous logic my brother. Revelation actually expounds upon the words God gave to Daniel. The difference is that Daniel was told to "seal up" his book, whereas John was told "do not seal up the words" of his book. Revelation was written in code, but we have 65 additional books plus history that work as the cipher.

Revelation is fun to try to guess the meaning of, but we have plain teaching in books such as the Epistles to establish doctrine with.

 

[Stryder06]

And where is this quote written? In the book of encouragement written in code.

Serious? My assertion is pretty much standard belief among Christians.

Many Christians do believe that the book of Revelation is not to be understood. Given the fact that it's the final book of the bible, (kind of like the icing on the cake ), don't you think it's kind of odd that anyone would teach someone that a book of the bible is not to be understood, especially when the bible says that all scripture is profitable...?

There is a general movement to keep people in the dark in regards to end-time prophecy. I think that is a move of the adversary. If people don't know what to expect, than they won't be ready for it. Also, the book of Revelation straightway tells that those commandment keeping = life. That flies in the face of the "abrogation of the ten commandments" doctrine that is pushed from many a pulpit.

 

[ChrisCarol]

I'm not belittling you. I've made a straight comment, which you seem unable, or unwilling to do. Your quote from Deut has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Christ is the Prophet that was raised up like unto Moses, but Christ wasn't the only prophet. Do you believe in the words of Isaiah and Jeremiah? Do you believe in the visions given to the Apostle John? Do you believe in the words written by Daniel? Do you believe the bible when it says that in the last days there would be dreamers and prophets?

Just because you do not understand what I am speaking about using The Word of God does not give you the right to make statement: You made a statement that addressed nothing, as usual.



I believe in the words of God: Matthew 17:5 ..............“This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

 

[Stryder06]

Revelation is fun to try to guess the meaning of, but we have plain teaching in books such as the Epistles to establish doctrine with.

Not everything in Revelation is cryptic. Yes a vast majority of it is but not all of it. Besides, the book of Daniel aids in understanding the content. We need not guess when the answers have been laid out for us. We should not ignore either, lest it be to our downfall.

Honestly, think of it like this, if you don't know what the book says, how can you be sure whether or not someone is lying to you or telling you the truth in regards to issue therein?

 

[Stryder06]

Just because you do not understand what I am speaking about using The Word of God does not give you the right to make statement: You made a statement that addressed nothing, as usual.



I believe in the words of God: Matthew 17:5 ..............“This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

Don't get it twisted. I understand the bible. It's your use of the scriptures that confuses me.

 

[ChrisCarol]

Don't get it twisted. I understand the bible. It's your use of the scriptures that confuses me.

What is so hard to understand: Deuteronomy 18:15 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.


You have agreed that this prophet spoken of is Jesus.

So in Matthew 17 we see just exactely what God wants us to do with that Prophet compared to others:


Matthew 17

The Transfiguration

1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.” 5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

Tell me what part don't you understand?

 

[Contented]

It is amazing how E.G. White must be thrown into the mix each time. Christianity is about a person and that Person is Jesus. When will folks here understand that Jesus is the Way, The Truth and the Life. E.G. White is dead since 1915. Even in our church here name is repeated so often, and on here her name is mentioned more than Jesus..if that aint idolatry, I don't know what is. JESUS IS LORD.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

It is amazing how E.G. White must be thrown into the mix each time. Christianity is about a person and that Person is Jesus. When will folks here understand that Jesus is the Way, The Truth and the Life. E.G. White is dead since 1915. Even in our church here name is repeated so often, and on here her name is mentioned more than Jesus..if that aint idolatry, I don't know what is. JESUS IS LORD.

Ellen White is the prophet for the end time believers... believe it or not is your perogative.

No one on here is saying that Christ is not supreme, that the Word is about Him... in fact everything Ellen White wrote about is in reverence to Him and directing us to Him.

It's funny that I can post on here all day long reciting the words of Paul and I won't be accused of idolatry but mention Ellen White and it's a different story. How sad that people can't see past their prejudice to be blessed by what the Holy Spirit gave us through her writings...

 

[Stryder06]

It is amazing how E.G. White must be thrown into the mix each time. Christianity is about a person and that Person is Jesus. When will folks here understand that Jesus is the Way, The Truth and the Life. E.G. White is dead since 1915. Even in our church here name is repeated so often, and on here her name is mentioned more than Jesus..if that aint idolatry, I don't know what is. JESUS IS LORD.

I think you're a bit confused. There is no issue when referring to Sr White since her messages are from Christ.

 

[Stryder06]

What is so hard to understand: Deuteronomy 18:15 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.


You have agreed that this prophet spoken of is Jesus.

So in Matthew 17 we see just exactely what God wants us to do with that Prophet compared to others:


Matthew 17

The Transfiguration

1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.” 5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

Tell me what part don't you understand?

I don't understand the relevance. This thread is about the sanctuary doctrine. How does the text you provided add to this thread? No one is denying Christ as Lord so what point are you trying to make?

 

[Stryder06]

How sad that people can't see past their prejudice to be blessed by what the Holy Spirit gave us through her writings...

True indeed

 

[Contented]

I don't understand the relevance. This thread is about the sanctuary doctrine. How does the text you provided add to this thread? No one is denying Christ as Lord so what point are you trying to make?

The point I am trying to make is that it is time to forget EG White and focus on JESUS. Comprehehend me. Your adoration of this woman borders on idolatry, remember God says he will NEVER share his glory with another.

My last comment have a great evening.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Ellen White is the prophet for the end time believers... believe it or not is your perogative.

No one on here is saying that Christ is not supreme, that the Word is about Him... in fact everything Ellen White wrote about is in reverence to Him and directing us to Him.

It's funny that I can post on here all day long reciting the words of Paul and I won't be accused of idolatry but mention Ellen White and it's a different story. How sad that people can't see past their prejudice to be blessed by what the Holy Spirit gave us through her writings...

ECR:

There you go again providing untruth about EGW. A woman would not be called a prophet but a prophetess and she was not. When you give out untruth it hurts the True Message that should be delivered. That is why my friend Contented is so upset. You are saying something that EGW nor the Bible authorized.

But now I must respond to the letters received from you and others. In your letter you speak of your early training to have implicit faith in the testimonies and say, "I was led to conclude and most firmly believe that every word that you ever spoke in public or private, that every letter you wrote under any and all circumstances, was as inspired as the Ten Commandments."
My brother, you have studied my writings diligently, and you have never found that I have made any such claims, neither will you find that the pioneers in our cause ever made such claims. 1SM 24​

To claim to be a prophetess is something that I have never done. If others call me by that name, I have no controversy with them. But my work has covered so many lines that I cannot call myself other than a messenger, sent to bear a message from Yashua to His people, and to take up work in any line that He points out.

When I was last in Battle Creek, I said before a large congregation that I did not claim to be a prophetess. Twice I referred to this matter, intending each time to make the statement, "I do not claim to be a prophetess." If I spoke otherwise than this, let all now understand that what I had in mind to say was that I do not claim the title of prophet or prophetess.

During the discourse, I said that I did not claim to be a prophetess. Some were surprised at this statement, and as much is being said in regard to it, I will make an explanation. Others have called me a prophetess, but I have never assumed that title. I have not felt that it was my duty thus to designate myself. Those who boldly assume that they are prophets in this our day are often a reproach to the cause of Yashua. 1SM 34, 35​

It is a shame that you all idolize her over the Bible and her own words. This is what makes us look so bad in other eyes and why so many of our members are dissatifed with the main stream. We are not to call someone something that Yashua never said she was. All of the messages she saw is in the Bible and you really do need her for that as said herself take the Bible.

The Testimonies for the Churches was to help individuals members in the early church to point out their error. Only Elohim could see what they were doing and present it to her. That was for the church and the church only to aid us in latter times to see these mistakes. Sad to say we have taken that out of place and the church and these individual leaders will pay for these sins.
I urge you to let this prophet thing go and stick with "Thus said YAHWEH!"​

Paul is in the Bible and the SDA church has idolize him over YAHWEH as well. The Bible says in Lev 23:1, 3 that the Feast days are His and not Israel or Jews. Dan 7:25 men would attempt to change time, which all moder translation shows that this is talking about the Feast days of YAHWEH! Even the Catholic church answer the question that they have power to change festivals. They claim they did and the first Feast day they boast they have changed is the Sabbath as well as the others. Then here goes the SDA church neither "hot or cold," but "lukewarm" that Yashua will "spue out of His mouth." Why? Because the SDA Church stated the Bible falsely concerning what Paul said. He was talking to the Colssians over the matter of the Mosaic law. He said they were nailed to Yashua's cross. He further states that Yashua had triumph over the false claims of Satan. The he said that the Jews had no right to judge them in taking the supper of Yashua (bread and wine), new moon (Isa 66:22), holy days (the annual Feast Days that the Disciples, Apostles and all other obeyed and kept after the death of Yashua in the book of Acts), and the Sabbaths (days are italic placed there by the KJ Scribes. Also the word "the," always specify the Seventh day Sabbath. There are no ceremonial sabbaths anywhere in the Bible. It is what suppose to be translators used. Taken Hebrew words and fasley changing them to mean something that is not true at all!!!!). It is funny that you mention Paul and not Peter or John. I wonder why?
Finally, whether you or anyone else agree with me or not, I will continue to speak out on this matters. None can provide in the Bible anything anywhere to refute my claim. If both EGW or Paul was alive today they would be appall. Soon the wrath of the Almighty and the Lamb will make Their truth known and those who continue to speak against truth will stand in judgment soon! I will continue to cry out loud because there are thousands who have not bowed to Baal. I hope that Contented and others read this and understand what is truth!​

Blessings,

stinsonmarri​

 

[stinsonmarri]

I think you're a bit confused. There is no issue when referring to Sr White since her messages are from Christ.

I beg to differ with you. Not all of her messages were from Yashua, some were her opinions and views of the day. She clearly stated to take the Bible over her words. If she felt that every message she wrote was from the Messiah she would have said so and she did not!

I can say that what she saw or was shone was from Yashua and can be found in the Bible. We must provide correct information.

Blessings,
stinsonmarri