What have you understood about the charcater of The Ten Commandments??

[GenemZ]

Why is it you can't seem to get the fact that Satan/devils and mankind overlap on matters of sin? Does it offend you, the fact of our sin being linked to Satanic slaveship?

Well? Are you still a slave of Satan?

I do not understand what it is that you want to make a point about. You tell me things that I already know, yet tell me in a manner as if I do not know them. Its weird what you are doing.

 

[GenemZ]

You have no temptation from the tempter or it's somehow 'external' and not in thought form where temptation transpires from same.

I'd call that an out of the mainstream view. It's a common biblical understanding that the tempter tempts within as 'in our thought realm.'

Fairly simple concept to 'most.'

s

You know something?... You are a tempter in your own right.

(that's what is so ironic about your spooky spiel)

 

[Nanopants]

All this talk about the devil doesn't bother me, but it makes me worry about others. The more attention we give it the more power it has over us, but we should be able to pick up snakes (figuratively ofc) and not be harmed. Christ said fear God; the devil's beaten and God is greater so why give it so much focus and attention?

 

[GenemZ]

All this talk about the devil doesn't bother me, but it makes me worry about others. The more attention we give it the more power it has over us, but we should be able to pick up snakes (figuratively ofc) and not be harmed. Christ said fear God; the devil's beaten and God is greater so why give it so much focus and attention?

Some folks have a sense of kinship and do not even realize it.

 

[Elder 111]

The ten Commandments belong to God

20 57.14% The Ten Commandments belong to Moses.

6 17.14% The principles of the Ten commandments are restricted to a time period.

4 11.43% The principles of the Ten Commandments are/were for all times.

25 71.43% Jesus/God wrote the Ten Commandments.

25 71.43% Moses wrote the Ten Commandments

6 17.14% All men will be judged by the principles of the Ten Commandments.

18 51.43% Only the Jews will be judge by the principles of the Ten Commandments.

4 11.43% The principles of the Ten Commandments is what Jesus meant will not change. Mat 5:17-19.

15 42.86% A Christians can be saved without living up to the principles of the Ten Commandments

21 60.00% Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 35.
It is clear from the above that our theology in relation to the Ten Commandments of God is very flawed.
How can over 50% of us admit that God gave us the ten Commandments, that they stand for all times, and that we will be Judge by them with another 42.86% saying that Jesus stated in Mathew 5 that they will stand until heaven and earth pass and yet 60% of us still want to believe that we can live without obedience to God in respect of the said same Ten Commandments.
Now that is stupid. Or simply from Hell. It reminds me of the garden of Eden, when, Eve after telling the serpent that she should can not even touch the tree was still able so see that it was good for food. Why?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Will someone please explain to me, how can we be judge by the laws of the Ten commandments and still it has no jurisdiction over us? It's a mystery!

 

[Rev Randy]

The Sabbath is the test. The tree in the mist of the Garden. That person have to decide on.

This is very troubling. Why would a Command given in the middle of the list be the test. The test, if their is one, would be upon the first. The Sabbath was made for man so it is not the test of our love fore God. It may be a test of our love of self.

 

[from scratch]

All this talk about the devil doesn't bother me, but it makes me worry about others. The more attention we give it the more power it has over us, but we should be able to pick up snakes (figuratively ofc) and not be harmed. Christ said fear God; the devil's beaten and God is greater so why give it so much focus and attention?

I think people talk about things that are central in their lives. Get my drift?

 

[squint]

You know something?... You are a tempter in your own right.

(that's what is so ironic about your spooky spiel)

If you are saying that internal temptation of the tempter is outside of reality of Christian life, I'd only say such are blind to the obvious.

s

 

[from scratch]

Some folks have a sense of kinship and do not even realize it.

 

[from scratch]

The ten Commandments belong to God

20 57.14% The Ten Commandments belong to Moses.

6 17.14% The principles of the Ten commandments are restricted to a time period.

4 11.43% The principles of the Ten Commandments are/were for all times.

25 71.43% Jesus/God wrote the Ten Commandments.

25 71.43% Moses wrote the Ten Commandments

6 17.14% All men will be judged by the principles of the Ten Commandments.

18 51.43% Only the Jews will be judge by the principles of the Ten Commandments.

4 11.43% The principles of the Ten Commandments is what Jesus meant will not change. Mat 5:17-19.

15 42.86% A Christians can be saved without living up to the principles of the Ten Commandments

21 60.00% Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 35.
It is clear from the above that our theology in relation to the Ten Commandments of God is very flawed.
How can over 50% of us admit that God gave us the ten Commandments, that they stand for all times, and that we will be Judge by them with another 42.86% saying that Jesus stated in Mathew 5 that they will stand until heaven and earth pass and yet 60% of us still want to believe that we can live without obedience to God in respect of the said same Ten Commandments.
Now that is stupid. Or simply from Hell. It reminds me of the garden of Eden, when, Eve after telling the serpent that she should can not even touch the tree was still able so see that it was good for food. Why?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Will someone please explain to me, how can we be judge by the laws of the Ten commandments and still it has no jurisdiction over us? It's a mystery!

First I wish to thank you for your admission by using the word our. Secondly your poll is very slanted and ill stated to prove your point and not the truth.

 

[squint]

All this talk about the devil doesn't bother me, but it makes me worry about others. The more attention we give it the more power it has over us, but we should be able to pick up snakes (figuratively ofc) and not be harmed. Christ said fear God; the devil's beaten and God is greater so why give it so much focus and attention?

Common christian fantasy.

The enemy/resistor of Christianity is a reality.

I bring this matter up in relation to LAW and GRACE primarily to show that neither are strictly 'man only' subjects.

I can assure you that the evil present with Paul, the messenger of Satan in his flesh, the temptation in his flesh was neither LEGAL or under GRACE.

This matter is a matter of DIVISION. It is only when we try to BLANKET the entirely of ourselves do we get into trouble, and hence the divisions that are caused over the subject matter.

It is comforting to know that the LAW is against evil and sin. It is equally comforting that there are scriptural explanations about why these things exist. Why the LAW is important to PROVE men sinners.

Paul exhibited the primary function of law, as an instrument that he DIED through in order to LIVE unto Christ.

That was not a 'one time' matter, but a daily one.

It is only uncomfortable when one has to honesty deal with the facts of their own SIN and EVIL PRESENT in relationship to the DEVIL.

s

 

[from scratch]

If you are saying that internal temptation of the tempter is outside of reality of Christian life, I'd only say such are blind to the obvious.

s

No Christians are tempted all the time.

 

[Sophrosyne]

First I wish to thank you for your admission by using the word our. Secondly your poll is very slanted and ill stated to prove your point and not the truth.

I think a lot of the more serious people refused to take part in such a poll like me. I mean let's face it "principles of the 10 commandments? That is meaningless to me as the Law was not about the principle of it all but deadly obligation and obedience. There is little room for principles when you are commanded to stone someone to death it matters none at all what your "principles" are you MUST do it or ELSE.

 

[squint]

No Christians are tempted all the time.

Your intentional disconnect of the TEMPTER/SATAN from the equations of temptation is duly noted, and is FALSE.

 

[from scratch]

Common christian fantasy.

The enemy/resistor of Christianity is a reality.

I bring this matter up in relation to LAW and GRACE primarily to show that neither are strictly 'man only' subjects.

I can assure you that the evil present with Paul, the messenger of Satan in his flesh, the temptation in his flesh was neither LEGAL or under GRACE.

This matter is a matter of DIVISION. It is only when we try to BLANKET the entirely of ourselves do we get into trouble, and hence the divisions that are caused over the subject matter.

It is comforting to know that the LAW is against evil and sin. It is equally comforting that there are scriptural explanations about why these things exist. Why the LAW is important to PROVE men sinners.

Paul exhibited the primary function of law, as an instrument that he DIED through in order to LIVE unto Christ.

That was not a 'one time' matter, but a daily one.

It is only uncomfortable when one has to honesty deal with the facts of their own SIN and EVIL PRESENT in relationship to the DEVIL.

s

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

This quote provides a double statement the body (the flesh) isn't subject to the law.

Yes Paul talks about a living sacrifice. The problem is that darn living sacrifice keeps crawling off of the altar.

 

[squint]

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

This quote provides a double statement the body (the flesh) isn't subject to the law.

Yes Paul talks about a living sacrifice. The problem is that darn living sacrifice keeps crawling off of the altar.

I can only say you are remarkably consistent in overlooking entirely the Tempter/Satan in every one of your spiels.

s

 

[from scratch]

I think a lot of the more serious people refused to take part in such a poll like me.

Goes for me, too. I don't much like traps and tricks that seem to make me say untrue things.

 

[from scratch]

Your intentional disconnect of the TEMPTER/SATAN from the equations of temptation is duly noted, and is FALSE.

You're very correct. The tempter has no control over my life and doesn't reside within me. He's very much an outside force constantly attacking me.

 

[squint]

You're very correct. The tempter has no control over my life and doesn't reside within me. He's very much an outside force constantly attacking me.

lol. Temptation by nature is internal and begins in our own minds, and does so at the impetus of the tempter/the devil.

The notion that is outside of us when it factually transpires in mind is again false.

Jesus advised us that evil comes from within. From evil thougths. That those thoughts DEFILE us. Without a fulcrum/tempter/satan it is then only you as evil and defiling.

I reject that blindness as it is not of God.

s

 

[from scratch]

I can only say you are remarkably consistent in overlooking entirely the Tempter/Satan in every one of your spiels.

s

I don't over look him at all. He's recognized as a warrior refusing defeat until he's totally unable to fight. It will happen. Until then there will always be a war. My faith fully quenches all his fiery darts.