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What has President Trump's time in office done to you, personally?

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Regarding payroll tax, it's wrong to say that the employee only pays half of the payroll tax. Truth is, it's built into their salary, so they really pay all of it.
Regarding taxing the rich, what you have to do, if you want to tax the 'rich' is to take more of investment income. Buffet paying 15% is one thing, but he doesn't have other income, it's all from investments. But, then, taxing more of investment income would hurt those down the line, like me.

Agreed in large part.

The payroll tax is actually one the taxes that gives me no problems - and I see as being imminently worthwhile. When discussing spending, wasteful spending in particular, my preference is to look at the income tax and things it goes toward.
 
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Agreed in large part.

The payroll tax is actually one the taxes that gives me no problems - and I see as being imminently worthwhile. When discussing spending, wasteful spending in particular, my preference is to look at the income tax and things it goes toward.
I would rather have control of the $$$ I put into SSI, Medicare is different. I don't believe I'll get out of SSI what I put into it, and when I die, it doesn't pass on. My wife might get some, but I doubt we will see it all.
 
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Here's what I don't understand in discussions like this. People argue back and forth about spending on things like welfare; but hardly ever does anyone go, "Hey, our military budget is $824.6 billion this year. Does it seem like maybe we could do better things with that money?"

I know, with my own government, I get crankiest about my tax dollars being used in warfare overseas. I mean, yes, I'd like an efficient and effective health system, welfare system etc (and America's could certainly be improved). But that pales in comparison to wanting what I earn to not be used to kill people.
 
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Catholics would tell you that you, also, deny God's word every time you deny that God's word is more than the Bible.
I did not elect Trump's personal history, just as you didn't consider Clinton's morality and drug use when you voted for him.

I will ask again, why is it your fools make all of these fale ASSumptions based on nothing I have posted? Is it your mental derangement hating truth? So, I will say sonce again, I have not voted for ether a Democrat, or a Republican, since the first time Reagan was elected.

I elected the best of the candidates presented.

So, out of all the candidates out there, in your "christian" perspective the "best of the candidates" was one who stole from his contractors, used a charity for his own personal use, lied to get out of serving in the military, committed adultery several times, lied about his "christian" faith, and church attendance, and the list goes on.

What form of christianity is that?


What I'm happy to see, now, is that fewer people are on food stamps and unemployment and welfare,

What has Trump to do with that? More jobs were created by Obama, and even if it were true that Trump created any jobs in 2017 the increase began under Obama's policies, nothing to do with Trump. However, you hate Obama so much you will use any excuse to pretend that Trump is responsible:

The number of people on food stamps is falling. Here's why

You have no idea how I pay attention to God's word.

Your posts prove you don't.

Good, and I hope they release all the texts from the FBI Lovebirds. Bye Andy! The whole Obama house of cards is going down. Thank God for that.

"Thank God"? Sorry, but you vote for a deceiver, and a liar, and then you thank god for it? Your Repugnant ones are not going to allow the release of all the papers. They are only going to allow the release of the classified information Nunez places in his fake memo.

"Obama house of cards". Damn, you are easily fooled.
 
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Here's what I don't understand in discussions like this. People argue back and forth about spending on things like welfare; but hardly ever does anyone go, "Hey, our military budget is $824.6 billion this year. Does it seem like maybe we could do better things with that money?"

I know, with my own government, I get crankiest about my tax dollars being used in warfare overseas. I mean, yes, I'd like an efficient and effective health system, welfare system etc (and America's could certainly be improved). But that pales in comparison to wanting what I earn to not be used to kill people.


Strange thing is that those who support the military buildup are for the most part cowards who never served in the military. Since the days of Washington, and then Eisenhower, the warnings have been given about the "military industrial complex" to no avail. Even when it was revealed that the Pentagon could not account for billions, if not trillions, of dollars the chickenhawks want even more money. When it was revealed that the military has warehouses filled with unusable spare parts, they want more money.

But then, the contractors need to be taken care, not the ones that actually have to go, and do the fighting. This is how the chickenhawks treat American troops:

No Food, No Armor, No Ammo - Bush's Troops Fight War On The Cheap

No Food, No Armor, No Ammo -
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What I want to know is, why is it that you guys think government is the answer to everything? I donate about 15% of my income to charity, every year. I make sure that what I donate is used efficiently, one thing the government doesn't do. Government is not efficient at seeing to it that the dollar collected gets spent in the best way for the poor.

If you give 15% you are in the minority even among "christians"

Now, how many years have the people depended on government? Even the right wingers are depending on government to take from the poor, and give to the rich, thus insuring many more generation of poor.

Got a question for you. Of all the money given to the poor how much ends up in the hands of the rich?

The rich usually earn what they make, regardless of your rhetoric.

Now that is delusional. They only earn by taking from others.

If you want to stop 'cheap labor', stop illegals from taking jobs that pay under the table, and those employers that help them that way.

Even illegals pay taxes. Look it up someday when you decide you want truth. Back in the old days it was blamed on immigrants from Ireland, China, any excuse they could find.

[quote}Actually hospitals and universities were started by Catholics who wanted to take care of people in need, and to educate the populace. At least in Europe.[/quote]

Sorry, wrong again:

Ivy League - Wikipedia

But notice it was not government who started the hospitals and universities.

Never said they did. In fact, the first hospital for the poor was started by Benjamin Franklin, and then later financed by the First Congress. Then too, most hospitals have been started by the "government" be it local, or federal:

http://www.jblearning.com/samples/0763749745/49745_Ch03.pdf


People who earn their keep deserve what they earn. Even St. Paul said that those who don't work shouldn't eat.

Again with the cherry picking of scripture to justify greed:
2Corinthians 8: 13-15
“For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:"

But, that is the Christian way, not the materialistic way we see in the so-called "church" today.
 
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I always kinda wonder when I see things like that...

Don't people also say that half of all Americans pay no income tax at all? If that's true - then all they pay are the regional sales taxes & the payroll tax (at 6%).

How does that factor into the idea that they spend at least one third of the year paying taxes?

We are speaking of averages here. . .but. . .

There are all manner of taxes. Excise taxes, sin taxes, gross receipts taxes, sales taxes, fuel taxes, capital gains taxes, alternate minimum taxes, social security taxes, medicare taxes, etc. etc. etc. in addition to state and federal income taxes. But the fact that half of Americans pay little or no federal income taxes at all only emphasizes how much of that burden is being carried by the other half and why it is so wrong to criticize the tax relief given those who carry the largest burden.
 
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Here's what I don't understand in discussions like this. People argue back and forth about spending on things like welfare; but hardly ever does anyone go, "Hey, our military budget is $824.6 billion this year. Does it seem like maybe we could do better things with that money?"

I know, with my own government, I get crankiest about my tax dollars being used in warfare overseas. I mean, yes, I'd like an efficient and effective health system, welfare system etc (and America's could certainly be improved). But that pales in comparison to wanting what I earn to not be used to kill people.
I don't think so. Safety of the population is the government's first responsibility. I think the military could spend it better and waste less, but it was just discovered that the Veterans Administration wasted 1.6 billion last year.
It would be really, really nice if everyone was nice in the world, but alas not so. Christ didn't have a problem with nations being at war, though overtaking land from another power and peoples in itself is serious sin.
I would really like our government to operate at better efficiency. They should realize where the money comes from, and cherish every dollar, in every department. If they'd only do that, I'd be happy.
I also don't have a problem with giving welfare to those in need, but I believe that charity best comes from the heart, not the government. I do have a problem giving welfare to people for their entire lives and creating a system of dependence on the government. The only time I've ever used government assistance, it was something that actually came out of my paycheck every week-it was unemployment benefits, and I was on it for 6 weeks once, 4 weeks once. During those times of unemployment, I kept paying all my bills, credit cards and mortgage, though I got much less than half of what I was earning.
 
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I will ask again, why is it your fools make all of these fale ASSumptions based on nothing I have posted? Is it your mental derangement hating truth? So, I will say sonce again, I have not voted for ether a Democrat, or a Republican, since the first time Reagan was elected.
Why is it that you focus on the side-comment rather than the gyst? Do you deny that God's word is found in other places, than the Bible? (You could have said "I didn't vote for Clinton either".)
So, out of all the candidates out there, in your "christian" perspective the "best of the candidates" was one who stole from his contractors, used a charity for his own personal use, lied to get out of serving in the military, committed adultery several times, lied about his "christian" faith, and church attendance, and the list goes on.

What form of christianity is that?
I do not know that President Trump stole from contractors, used a charity for his own use, lied to get out of the military, committed adultery (though that's been alleged), lied about his "Christian" faith, etc.
I do know that no human is blameless, so given that we're to forgive the sinner, I listen to what he proposed.
What has Trump to do with that? More jobs were created by Obama, and even if it were true that Trump created any jobs in 2017 the increase began under Obama's policies, nothing to do with Trump. However, you hate Obama so much you will use any excuse to pretend that Trump is responsible:

The number of people on food stamps is falling. Here's why
Well, I don't trust Newsweek as a source, #1. Secondly, the optimism in business as soon as President Trump's election was confirmed, shown in the overwhelming rise in the stock market, is why businesses are hiring and more people are interested in going to work now. Whether it's perceived or real, I know that no president has ever created a job, except for Mr. Trump when he was in the private sector. It is as though a breeze is blowing through the country, refreshing the land and giving confidence to the business climate.
Your posts prove you don't.
Careful pointing your finger, you know where the other three point?
"Thank God"? Sorry, but you vote for a deceiver, and a liar, and then you thank god for it? Your Repugnant ones are not going to allow the release of all the papers. They are only going to allow the release of the classified information Nunez places in his fake memo.
You don't know, have no proof of deception or lies, all I know is that Mrs. Clinton called me 'deplorable'. The others were pretty silent, so didn't pay attention to them. Yes, release those papers, let the light shine on the truth. Let's. And let's deal with all the classified information Mrs. Clinton left on a server unsecured. Being a computer professional, I know the dangers in that. IF the truth clears her, so be it.
"Obama house of cards". Damn, you are easily fooled.
You were easily fooled in the last 8 years if you think it was anything more.
 
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If you give 15% you are in the minority even among "christians"
Not in my community am I a minority. I hang with the right people, I guess.
Now, how many years have the people depended on government? Even the right wingers are depending on government to take from the poor, and give to the rich, thus insuring many more generation of poor.
Since LBJ started the war on poverty. And more of the money intended to fight poverty went into the pockets of politicians than went to the people they wanted to serve, just like the Clinton Global Initiative was more self-serving than generous.
Got a question for you. Of all the money given to the poor how much ends up in the hands of the rich?
You mean tax dollars meant for the poor? At least 75%.
Now that is delusional. They only earn by taking from others.
No, that's delusional. Most of the rich work for a living. According to Obama, I'm rich, in the top 10% of wage earners. But I work for my living, unlike those union representatives of all the union locals in the US. Oh, and then there's Warren Buffet, the Democrat Idol, who makes no money except on his investments, on which he pays 15% tax. And Soros.
What I want to know is, if people want to help the government, why don't they just write a check. Come on, all you Hollywood Elite? You make 60-250 million dollars a year, why don't you give a measly million to the government, help out a buddy, Barrack?
Even illegals pay taxes. Look it up someday when you decide you want truth. Back in the old days it was blamed on immigrants from Ireland, China, any excuse they could find.
Sales taxes? But where did I say anywhere that illegals don't pay taxes? What I know is that they take more in government services than they give in taxes.
Actually hospitals and universities were started by Catholics who wanted to take care of people in need, and to educate the populace. At least in Europe.
Oh, you mean in America. I was talking of the world, and all history. Catholics created the hospital and the university.
Never said they did. In fact, the first hospital for the poor was started by Benjamin Franklin, and then later financed by the First Congress. Then too, most hospitals have been started by the "government" be it local, or federal:

http://www.jblearning.com/samples/0763749745/49745_Ch03.pdf
Well, most hospitals were founded by the Catholic Church, which has fed more people, educated more people, clothed more people, housed more people and educated more people than any institution on earth.
Again with the cherry picking of scripture to justify greed:
2Corinthians 8: 13-15
“For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:"

But, that is the Christian way, not the materialistic way we see in the so-called "church" today.
We can agree there. Which is why I'm not hung up on hoarding my hard-earned money. But St. Paul did say that those who work shouldn't eat. And yet he collected alms from one community to give to the other community. What he meant is those who are lazy. And many poor in America are quite lazy. I remember distinctly the days when people drove to the store in a welfare Cadillac-bought with their welfare money-and paid for their groceries with food stamps. And drove back to park that hunk of steel in front of their government housing. I believe strongly in work-fare. Do somethng to earn your services. Same with medical care. If you legit cannot, it's different. But if you're able bodied, I see lots of trash on the side of the road, waiting for someone to clean it up.
 
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Not in my community am I a minority. I hang with the right people, I guess.Since LBJ started the war on poverty. And more of the money intended to fight poverty went into the pockets of politicians than went to the people they wanted to serve, just like the Clinton Global Initiative was more self-serving than generous.You mean tax dollars meant for the poor? At least 75%.No, that's delusional. Most of the rich work for a living. According to Obama, I'm rich, in the top 10% of wage earners. But I work for my living, unlike those union representatives of all the union locals in the US. Oh, and then there's Warren Buffet, the Democrat Idol, who makes no money except on his investments, on which he pays 15% tax. And Soros.
What I want to know is, if people want to help the government, why don't they just write a check. Come on, all you Hollywood Elite? You make 60-250 million dollars a year, why don't you give a measly million to the government, help out a buddy, Barrack?
Sales taxes? But where did I say anywhere that illegals don't pay taxes? What I know is that they take more in government services than they give in taxes.
Actually hospitals and universities were started by Catholics who wanted to take care of people in need, and to educate the populace. At least in Europe.Oh, you mean in America. I was talking of the world, and all history. Catholics created the hospital and the university.Well, most hospitals were founded by the Catholic Church, which has fed more people, educated more people, clothed more people, housed more people and educated more people than any institution on earth.We can agree there. Which is why I'm not hung up on hoarding my hard-earned money. But St. Paul did say that those who work shouldn't eat. And yet he collected alms from one community to give to the other community. What he meant is those who are lazy. And many poor in America are quite lazy. I remember distinctly the days when people drove to the store in a welfare Cadillac-bought with their welfare money-and paid for their groceries with food stamps. And drove back to park that hunk of steel in front of their government housing. I believe strongly in work-fare. Do somethng to earn your services. Same with medical care. If you legit cannot, it's different. But if you're able bodied, I see lots of trash on the side of the road, waiting for someone to clean it up.

I generally don't read chopped up posts as I find they sometimes destroy context and are pretty boring to read and tedious to respond to.

But scanning over your comments here I did pick up on one point you made that bears acknowledgement: i.e. the fact that those complaining the loudest about how unfair society is, how terrible wealth inequality is, how much the rich should pay more never seem to acknowledge that the top 1% pay 39+% of all federal income taxes (and that would include capital gains).

The top 5% pay 60%, the top 10% pay 71%, the top 25% pay 87% and the top 50% pay 97.17 of all federal income taxes paid. The bottom 50% pay under 3% of all federal income taxes paid, but their vote counts just the same as those who are carrying the country on their backs. And in my opinion that is wrong. Everybody should pay the same percentage if they are going to have the right to vote for the people who establish the tax code so that the benefits or pain of tax policy is equally distributed.

But since so many small businesses are dependent on the large corporations to buy their products, and so many of the large corporations as well as wealthy individuals are responsible for so many of the great institutions of higher learning, hospitals, museum and zoo exhibits, patronage of the arts and research, etc., the country would be very much the poorer if all the large corporations ceased to exist or became small businesses. And because it is business, large and small, that provides the huge lion's share of the population with jobs and opportunity to prosper, and it is those who constitute most of the "rich", the President is very right to promote more of that instead of looking for ways that government can profit from them.

And as for those super rich in the entertainment industry, politicians, etc. who despise the President's tax policies, I wonder how many have cut a check to the government to pay down the deficit/debt and have offered their services for the benefit of government no matter who is in the White House? How many of any demographic who think the government is starving for cash have offered to help it out? No, everybody who thinks the government needs more money want the government to get it from 'those other people.'

We can sometimes be so hypocritical while believing we are righteous.
 
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(You could have said "I didn't vote for Clinton either".)

Yes, I keep forgetting the low IQ of the ones I am responding to. So low they cannot figure out that when I say I have not voted for either party for over 30 years it might include the Clintons.

I do not know that President Trump stole from contractors, used a charity for his own use, lied to get out of the military, committed adultery (though that's been alleged), lied about his "Christian" faith, etc.

That is because truth is not relevant to you even as it is not to Trump.

In any event, your ignorance is not surprising to me since the country has been getting dumber, and dumber, for around 50 years now. So it is not a surprise that trash like Trump, and the Clintons, can dupe the minds of so many. You probably won't live long enough to see the mess you have helped to create, but your children, and grandchildren, will be. But why should you care. You'll be dead.
 
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I know it is a waste of my time to try and convince the unteachable about truth, ethics, integrity, or faith in Jesus. However, if I do not try then will I become as one of them? I don't think so, however, Ezekiel did demand that we be "Watchmen on the wall". So, for those that think Trump is a lesser god, and hold on to his teachings more so then that of Christ, you might want to read this:

Analysis | Fact-checking the 2018 State of the Union address
 
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Yes, I keep forgetting the low IQ of the ones I am responding to. So low they cannot figure out that when I say I have not voted for either party for over 30 years it might include the Clintons.
Well, to be fair, I didn't SAY you voted for Clinton, now, did I?
That is because truth is not relevant to you even as it is not to Trump.

In any event, your ignorance is not surprising to me since the country has been getting dumber, and dumber, for around 50 years now. So it is not a surprise that trash like Trump, and the Clintons, can dupe the minds of so many. You probably won't live long enough to see the mess you have helped to create, but your children, and grandchildren, will be. But why should you care. You'll be dead.
Oh, I clean up my messes. Unlike most anti-Trump rallies, who say they care about the environment, but leave a mess behind for the minions to clean after them. And let's not forget the messes of Antifa and the 99%ers.
 
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..I want to know what President Trump's policies have done to hurt you, personally, or help you, personally. Concrete things:

For example "I got a bonus from my company directly attributable to President Trump's tax cut." Or "I lost my job because President Trump has cut my government job."

In my experience, other than raising or lowering my taxes, no president has had an effect on me, personally.
I received the electronic pay-stub for this week, this morning. It is the first one reflecting the new tax policy signed by the GOP Reality Show host.
the pay (40 hour, fixed, at a static hourly rate) is exactly the same as last week.
Under the new tax policy my Federal Income tax went up (yes up) $7.72 this week.
fwiw, my annual income is less than the median wage.

also; it could be argued if this is attributable to new policy, existing policy, or as I would suspect the nature of our nation's healthcare system in general in effect for ages
my medical insurance went up $11.06 per week, dental $6.31, and vision $1.26 costing $18.63 more every week.
 
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I received the electronic pay-stub for this week, this morning. It is the first one reflecting the new tax policy signed by the GOP Reality Show host.
the pay (40 hour, fixed, at a static hourly rate) is exactly the same as last week.
Under the new tax policy my Federal Income tax went up (yes up) $7.72 this week.
fwiw, my annual income is less than the median wage.

also; it could be argued if this is attributable to new policy, existing policy, or as I would suspect the nature of our nation's healthcare system in general in effect for ages
my medical insurance went up $11.06 per week, dental $6.31, and vision $1.26 costing $18.63 more every week.
Regarding your medical coverage, that is a significant weekly rise! Regarding the tax plan, nobody said that some people wouldn't pay higher taxes. That said, sorry it was you that was a victim. Hopefully, your employer will see fit to give you a decent raise.
 
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I don't think so. Safety of the population is the government's first responsibility. I think the military could spend it better and waste less, but it was just discovered that the Veterans Administration wasted 1.6 billion last year.
It would be really, really nice if everyone was nice in the world, but alas not so. Christ didn't have a problem with nations being at war, though overtaking land from another power and peoples in itself is serious sin.
I would really like our government to operate at better efficiency. They should realize where the money comes from, and cherish every dollar, in every department. If they'd only do that, I'd be happy.
I also don't have a problem with giving welfare to those in need, but I believe that charity best comes from the heart, not the government. I do have a problem giving welfare to people for their entire lives and creating a system of dependence on the government. The only time I've ever used government assistance, it was something that actually came out of my paycheck every week-it was unemployment benefits, and I was on it for 6 weeks once, 4 weeks once. During those times of unemployment, I kept paying all my bills, credit cards and mortgage, though I got much less than half of what I was earning.

While I have no doubt that the Defense Department wastes a whole bunch of money, I do think a strong defense is one of the few things the government spends money on that is Constitutionally justified. As super powers rise and fall--the USSR no longer is one but China has become one--I don't have any doubt in the world our ability to wreck absolute havoc on our enemies is the only thing that has given the American people relatively unparalelled assurance that we won't have missiles and bombs raining down on our neighborhoods and we really don't have concern that anybody will attack us.

And we have a President who finally takes international terrorism as a real and present danger for U.S. citizens and isn't concerned about being politically correct so that he ties our hands to deal with it. And because of him, we are less worried about terrorist attacks and even places like Europe have significantly fewer attacks these days though the danger still exists and we need continuous and efficient monitoring and interception of all threats.

Through the efficient intelligence of the USA, Israel, and Saudi Arabia of all places, an unnamed but large number of terrorist attacks have been averted here as well as in Europe.

Netanyahu: Israel helped stop terror attacks on planes in Europe
 
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So many people hate what the President "stands for" or what he says, or just have a general bias. I want to know what President Trump's policies have done to hurt you, personally, or help you, personally. Concrete things:

Made my wife's paycheck fatter;

Made our 401-K fatter

Given us both the confidence that comes from having an adult in the White House.
 
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