If you give 15% you are in the minority even among "christians"
Not in my community am I a minority. I hang with the right people, I guess.
Now, how many years have the people depended on government? Even the right wingers are depending on government to take from the poor, and give to the rich, thus insuring many more generation of poor.
Since LBJ started the war on poverty. And more of the money intended to fight poverty went into the pockets of politicians than went to the people they wanted to serve, just like the Clinton Global Initiative was more self-serving than generous.
Got a question for you. Of all the money given to the poor how much ends up in the hands of the rich?
You mean tax dollars meant for the poor? At least 75%.
Now that is delusional. They only earn by taking from others.
No, that's delusional. Most of the rich work for a living. According to Obama, I'm rich, in the top 10% of wage earners. But I work for my living, unlike those union representatives of all the union locals in the US. Oh, and then there's Warren Buffet, the Democrat Idol, who makes no money except on his investments, on which he pays 15% tax. And Soros.
What I want to know is, if people want to help the government, why don't they just write a check. Come on, all you Hollywood Elite? You make 60-250 million dollars a year, why don't you give a measly million to the government, help out a buddy, Barrack?
Even illegals pay taxes. Look it up someday when you decide you want truth. Back in the old days it was blamed on immigrants from Ireland, China, any excuse they could find.
Sales taxes? But where did I say anywhere that illegals don't pay taxes? What I know is that they take more in government services than they give in taxes.
Actually hospitals and universities were started by Catholics who wanted to take care of people in need, and to educate the populace. At least in Europe.
Oh, you mean in America. I was talking of the world, and all history. Catholics created the hospital and the university.
Never said they did. In fact, the first hospital for the poor was started by Benjamin Franklin, and then later financed by the First Congress. Then too, most hospitals have been started by the "government" be it local, or federal:
http://www.jblearning.com/samples/0763749745/49745_Ch03.pdf
Well, most hospitals were founded by the Catholic Church, which has fed more people, educated more people, clothed more people, housed more people and educated more people than any institution on earth.
Again with the cherry picking of scripture to justify greed:
2Corinthians 8: 13-15
“For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:"
But, that is the Christian way, not the materialistic way we see in the so-called "church" today.
We can agree there. Which is why I'm not hung up on hoarding my hard-earned money. But St. Paul did say that those who work shouldn't eat. And yet he collected alms from one community to give to the other community. What he meant is those who are lazy. And many poor in America are quite lazy. I remember distinctly the days when people drove to the store in a welfare Cadillac-bought with their welfare money-and paid for their groceries with food stamps. And drove back to park that hunk of steel in front of their government housing. I believe strongly in work-fare. Do somethng to earn your services. Same with medical care. If you legit cannot, it's different. But if you're able bodied, I see lots of trash on the side of the road, waiting for someone to clean it up.