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When you dont cut out the part you omitted it becomes clearer.That's not what he said. That's a prime example of leftwing media lying about things Trump says. He said Mexico is sending us their rapists, murderers etc. to get rid of them. The left purposely misconstrued "their" as "they're" as in they are.
Agree.There has long been disagreement about how we handle immigration.
According to what source?That is the amount of applicants who get through the process each year.
It sure sounded like that to me over the years. All of the illegal aliens suddenly became "refugees".Because those are true statements. The idea that people believe we need "Open borders" is a fabrication.
When Trump said wall secure borders suddenly became racist, fascist, xenophobic etc..No. There has long been disagreement about how we handle immigration. I remember the acrimony back when Reagan was dealing with it.
Not all of them, only those with plausible asylum claims. Refugees fall into a different category and there are different admission standards.According to what source?
It sure sounded like that to me over the years. All of the illegal aliens suddenly became "refugees".
When Trump said wall secure borders suddenly became racist, fascist, xenophobic etc..
What party did I omit?When you dont cut out the part you omitted it becomes clearer.
They somehow multiplied significantly overnight.Not all of them, only those with plausible asylum claims. Refugees fall into a different category and there are different admission standards.
"and some, I assume, are good people."What party did I omit?
Yes they did, and for a variety of reasons. The standards applied to evaluating their claims hasn't changed, however. What seems to be the problem is how the "caravans" are being dealt with. If they can get into the country, even illegally, they can file a legal asylum claim. There are so many crowded into inhospitable conditions on the other side of the border that it seems to many both expedient and humanitarian to let them enter illegally under supervision and then take them into custody--the so called "open borders" policy..They somehow multiplied significantly overnight.
Us government statistics. I heard it in the questioning that Katie Porter, senator from California, was asking David J. Bier associate director of immigration studies at the CATO Institute.According to what source?
Yes, many conservatives seem to have gotten that message. The best explanation I can offer is that conservative media has altered and simplified what the left has been saying. The nuance seems to have been lost.It sure sounded like that to me over the years. All of the illegal aliens suddenly became "refugees".
When Trump made racist xenophobic comments they were taken as such.When Trump said wall secure borders suddenly became racist, fascist, xenophobic etc..
That's not what he said. That's a prime example of leftwing media lying about things Trump says. He said Mexico is sending us their rapists, murderers etc. to get rid of them. The left purposely misconstrued "their" as "they're" as in they are.
And now it seems they're realizing their mistake.
I'm sorry, but that is nonsense. Here's the transcript of the entire speech (ignore the annotations; I don't care about them):What party did I omit?
Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.
When Trump said wall secure borders suddenly became racist, fascist, xenophobic etc..
As I recall that's when the democrats started going in the opposite direction regarding border security.Well he certainly failed at that. No border secured and didn't make Mexico pay for it despite being in power for 4 years.
I just simply listened to that segment at the time and drew my own conclusion. It's easy for someone writing a transcript to render "their" as "they're". The message was we need tighter border control. More vetting. I'm originally from Southern California and I know about the gangs that have come over the border. The left probably won't look into that or acknowledge their numbers because they consider that racist and xenophobic.I'm sorry, but that is nonsense. Here's the transcript of the entire speech (ignore the annotations; I don't care about them):
Here's the relevant section:
The point he's conveying here is that the bulk of the people coming from Mexico are not good people, not the folks we'd want living here. Yes, he conceded that they might not all be bad, but he's clearly framing the good folks as a minority.
This isn't the "leftwing media lying about things Trump says." This is us listening to and reading his actual words. If you came away from that speech with some other interpretation of what he said, then I'd say it was likely that you didn't read it and it was the rightwing media who lied to you about what he said.
I just simply listened to that segment at the time and drew my own conclusion. It's easy for someone writing a transcript to render "their" as "they're".
The message was we need tighter border control. More vetting.
Has anybody actually documented their numbers?I'm originally from Southern California and I know about the gangs that have come over the border. The left probably won't look into that or acknowledge their numbers because they consider that racist and xenophobic.
It's always been spun as "they are rapists" as in "most/all Mexicans are rapists".I don't know why you're hung up on "their" vs "they're." In the context of what he said, the difference is immaterial.
Their:
They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. Their [Mexico's] rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
They're:
They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They are rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
The phrasing is a bit awkward on both, but the substance is the same.
Not immigrants. Illegal aliens. There is a difference. Even though the left keeps pretending there isn't so they can keep doing theirYou can say that without painting the bulk of the migrants as criminals. In fact, you just did. ^^^Right there^^^
Document undocumented illegal aliens who snuck in hmm...Has anybody actually documented their numbers?
No, the Left just wants to draw the distinction between illegal economic migrants and illegal entrants with valid asylum claims--a distinction which the law also drawsNot immigrants. Illegal aliens. There is a difference. Even though the left keeps pretending there isn't so they can keep doing their
"you're a RACIST!!" shtick.
Seems to me they want everyone to pour in because it's "racist" to say no to them, and they've come up with all kinds of loopholes for it.No, the Left just wants to draw the distinction between illegal economic migrants and illegal entrants with valid asylum claims--a distinction which the law also draws
Yes, because of how it seems to you it's hard to understand.Seems to me they want everyone to pour in because it's "racist" to say no to them, and they've come up with all kinds of loopholes for it.
It's hard to understand why the left fights so hard for things like millions of illegals pouring in. Reduced law enforcement, along with reduced prosecuting and sentencing. Reduced and eliminated drug laws. The government paying people to be in the country illegally. Paying people to be drug addicts. When it's always been so obvious that's going to create huge problems. It's like "lets come up with really bad policies, so that we can say 'whoops" later on after a huge amount of damage has been done.
In a Democratic Republic like ours the people always get the government they deserve.And of course on top of that, it's all created a greater desire to get Trump back in office.
I should have said based on what I've heard from the left. And I'm hardly alone in seeing how badly woke leftism has turned out. Even those who supported it are starting to see what a disaster it is.Yes, because of how it seems to you it's hard to understand.
So what system of government should it be changed to?In a Democratic Republic like ours the people always get the government they deserve.
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