What errors and inventions arose in Roman Catholicism?

[LittleLambofJesus]

I decided to start a new thread on this and I am hoping we can discuss this in a civil way so as not to get it closed down.
Also, a lot of new members have joined CF since then and it will also give them a chance to share their views. God bless

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870602/#post54128393

This is a list I comprised from the first 40 posts on the above closed thread. I will work on another 40 posts when time allows...........

I put up the "post link" for each one mentioned here. The duplicates that I could see I put in "RED"......Thanks

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43628489

Scholasticism
Filioque
Papal Supremacy
Immaculate Conception

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43630346

Inventions:
-Infallability of the Pope
-Papal supremacy
-Immaculate coneption
-purgatory
Errors:
-Vatican I and II(not the councells but their decisions....although II was worse than I)
-indulgencies
-crusades
-Vatican City.... (never should have been a "seperate state"but goes hand in hand with the Papal supreority)

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43629206

Hmmmmm, let me think on that one..................................................................................................

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43630926
um, I got one, well kind of, not an error by the Pope but some errors made by a Catholic King and Catholic Monk.
Luthernism and Anglicanism

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43632320
None

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43636094

I'm going to have to go with Mr. O'Briens answer.

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43636190
Change in Paschalion.

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43636780
Lack of fasting. [of which post # 36 clarifies what is meant]

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43636255

*snip*

Crusades.

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43646993

*snip*
......so you see LLoJ...the RCC or any "business" that is involved in day to day ops certainly can't allow ALL MEN to believe in Him...the only ones who are allowed to believe are those who ADHERE to their particular organizations DOCTRINE...because THAT is the FORCE they use to keep their CUSTOMERS...and if you don't buy into ANY "churches" system...they will DAMN YOU TO BURN ALIVE...

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43652400

assumption of mary

submission to the pope of Rome being absolutely neccessary for salvation

penance to atone for sins committed after baptism

auricular confession

sacerdotal sacramentalism

meritorious works for the attainment of salvation

the whole Roman system of justification

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870.../#post43668261
Lateran IV

Unam Sanctum

Trent

Vatican I

Vatican II

the papacy

the Marian dogmas

the dogma of papal infallibility

auricular confession and penance

sacerdotal sacramentalism

purgatory

indugences

transubstantiation

and admit that the Roman religion was built upon the deceptions and frauds of forgeries invented during the dark ages



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LLoJ raises another zombie!

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)



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[tadoflamb]

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)



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Because protestants are more inventive?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Because protestants are more inventive?

chuckle chuckle chuckle

Certainly very productive of innovative and erroneous doctrine and practise.

 

[WisdomTree]

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)



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Maybe Protestants are offended easier? To think that anybody could possibly consider that their doctrines are anything, but perfect...

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I don't need to post here as the BoC already answers the OP: Welcome to the Book of Concord

Much of what was raised in the BoC was addressed at Trent; the other issues remain.

Bottom line is that since we subscribe to the Boc, we have less issues with Vatican Catholics than we do with reformed Protestantism. Things that those members post as errors against Rome are usually against us as well.

To paraphraise Luther: I'd sooner drink Christ's blood with the Pope than wine (or grape juice) with Protestants.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)



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Maybe because there's no sense in beating a dead horse.

 

[WisdomTree]

I actually agree that the Vatican City is an error thus a bad invention. However, this is not the fault of the Holy Catholic Church, but that of the Unified Italian State.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I actually agree that the Vatican City is an error thus a bad invention. However, this is not the fault of the Holy Catholic Church, but that of the Unified Italian State.

So, do I understand you correctly to wish for a caliphate (oops! I mean a pontificate) ruling the world?

 

[MoreCoffee]

I actually agree that the Vatican City is an error thus a bad invention. However, this is not the fault of the Holy Catholic Church, but that of the Unified Italian State.

Vatican city seems to be very pretty. Can't be too much of a mistake, can it?

 

[bbbbbbb]

Vatican city seems to be very pretty. Can't be too much of a mistake, can it?

Certainly not from an architectural historian's point of view. It contains some world-class architecture.

 

[tadoflamb]

 

[SpyderByte]

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)

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Maybe cause protestants are sick of threads that expose the Roman "church" for what it is, bein shut down for flamin and personal attacks by catholics...

 

[MoreCoffee]

Maybe cause protestants are sick of threads that expose the Roman "church" for what it is, bein shut down for flamin and personal attacks by catholics...

More likely it is because the other thread is more interesting.

 

[Albion]

I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)

I'm not sure that it does so, but it only takes a couple of guys to keep it going, you know, and there are several here who have made it their favorite project.

 

[WisdomTree]

So, do I understand you correctly to wish for a caliphate (oops! I mean a pontificate) ruling the world?

I'm gonna be absolutely honest and say that you actually bring up a really good point.

Should Christians try and re-make the world in the image of heaven? (or something along those lines)

I myself am quite schizophrenic regarding this, so I'm quite sure aye...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

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I wonder why the thread below gets more action/attention than that of the RCC errors and inventions

http://www.christianforums.com/t7782693/#post64489221
Protestant errors and inventions (5)
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Maybe because there's no sense in beating a dead horse.

Perhaps we can try artificial resuscitation

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by SpyderByte

Maybe cause protestants are sick of threads that expose the Roman "church" for what it is, bein shut down for flamin and personal attacks by catholics...
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More likely it is because the other thread is more interesting.

Perhaps it is more of because some non-RCC members are afraid of responding in a way that won't get them reported and the thread closed like this other similar thread on the same topic.

That is one reason I decided to do a spin-off of it

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870602-2/#post53989896
Roman church errors and inventions

21st January 2010, 10:35 PM

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This thread has been closed for review due to multiple reports. ​

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MOD HAT ON!

Re opening thread...

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[Root of Jesse]

Perhaps RCs should just stick to the OBOB board if they can't defend their position w/o acting defensive on the GT board.




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We can, and do, defend our faith. It's just worthless to do so with you folks because you just don't get it.

This is why I call all Protestantism the Church of "I don't see how". We already know you don't see how. It's quite possible that we don't see how either. That's what faith is for.

As far as I know, it's never been Catholics who wanted a scientific answer to how manna could be formed in the desert or what would make flocks of quail fall for the Hebrews to eat. It's also Protestants that take apart Genesis and Revelation and try to read all sorts of things into them that just are not there.

But LLOJ, for you to try and shove Catholics out of your little world here is pretty...I don't know what it is. But it is one reason I left Protestantism.

 

[Root of Jesse]

At last! A Catholic who is willing to claim his Church as having given birth to its Reformed siblings.

Actually, it would be called "spawn".

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Second Phoenix

I suppose that protestantism was the worst error and invention that came from Catholicism
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At last! A Catholic who is willing to claim his Church as having given birth to its Reformed siblings.

Actually, it would be called "spawn".

Did I say I was Catholic? Catholicism didn't 'birth' protestantism. Protestantism came from Catholicism, in the same way that all other heresies came from Catholicism via changing of the faith.

Protestantism is catholicism jr .

Eastern Orthodox seems closer to the original teachings . but after the schism .. or as the scriptures call it "the rebellion" the original is not visible in an organized fashion .

Pope is to the Kings era of israel's history like the reformation is to the dividing of the kingdom between Jeroboam and Rehoboam .. that too was about "work"

Perhaps the EOC has Roman Catholicism beat on that...
It almost persuadest me to join the EOC.....almost

http://www.christianforums.com/t5805969-86/
What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Hi. I would like to ask what it would take for the Orthodoxs to once again come under the Reign of the Pope? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Asinner

. . . . Or what would it take for the Pope to come back to the Faith where he is "first among equals"?

Although we share 1000 years, we have also been estranged for another 1000. We are very different. You are closer to Catholicism, as a Protestant, than is the Orthodox Church. Your separation is not as wide.

Love,
Christina
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"Hey Pope! Can I have your autograph after this picture session?
Thanks bro."

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