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What errors and inventions arose in Roman Catholicism?

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Nope, the bishop of Rome had been exercising authority since the beginning. Hence, the Epistle of Clement, written to a non-Roman community at the same time as the last books of the bible.
Corinth was primarily a Roman colony in Greece. The original Greek inhabitants had been wiped out or sold into slavery after a failed uprising several generations before.
 
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Or who denied our Lord three times, or was told "get behind me satan" by our Lord, etc. Yes, Peter definitely had a foot shaped mouth, and he used it to evangelize the Jews, NOT the gentiles, Paul had to confront him for his error! And peter was the first infallible pope? Jesus was the only infallible one, and if He wanted to have people follow peter as His "vicar" I think He'd have been a little more explicit than something so vague. Why not say "peter, you are my vicar, stand in my place" or something obvious?

Acts 10 tells me that Peter evangelised the first gentile converts.
Acts 10:17-48 KJV Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, 18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there. 19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee. 20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them. 21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come? 22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee. 23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him. 24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. 27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. 29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? 30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing, 31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God. 32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee. 33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: ) 37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

 
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Acts 10 tells me that Peter evangelised the first gentile converts.
Acts 10:17-48 KJV Now-snip-

Yep. Peter used the keys to open the door to the kingdom to Jew and Gentile. That was the "primacy" (see scripture and tradition through Tertullian).
 
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Yep. Peter used the keys to open the door to the kingdom to Jew and Gentile. That was the "primacy" (see scripture and tradition through Tertullian).

I do not see any mention of a key or of keys in Acts 10. But you are right that Peter preached the gospel to the gentiles first and so opened up the possibility that God was saving a people for his name from among the gentiles as well as from among the Jews.
 
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I do not see any mention of a key or of keys in Acts 10. But you are right that Peter preached the gospel to the gentiles first and so opened up the possibility that God was saving a people for his name from among the gentiles as well as from among the Jews.

There's no mention of keys in Acts 1 either.

Does Rome think they possess actual physical keys ;)
 
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There's no mention of keys in Acts 1 either.

Does Rome think they possess actual physical keys ;)

You're right that Acts 1 doesn't mention keys.

I think that the keys you're thinking about are from Matthew's gospel where it says, Matthew 16:19 NJB I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'

The keys seem to be about heaven and earth, right?
 
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You're right that Acts 1 doesn't mention keys.

I think that the keys you're thinking about are from Matthew's gospel where it says, Matthew 16:19 NJB I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'

The keys seem to be about heaven and earth, right?

The power of binding/loosing was given to them all. The keys of the kingdom were given to Peter who used it in his, amongst other examples, his being the first to preach to Jew and Gentile.
 
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The power of binding/loosing was given to them all. The keys of the kingdom were given to Peter who used it in his, amongst other examples, his being the first to preach to Jew and Gentile.

I am not seeing any keys used to preach to Cornelius, where are they?
 
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Here is the best invention.... That the RCC is 'the' Church. That some how the Rome church had superiority, when Antioch, that church that paul(you know the guy who wrote most of the biblical Theology) was sent from... Why not them? they kind of started it.

Or some how peter, an illiterate fisherman who had "foot in mouth" syndrome, is some infallible leader and his word is God's very command.

It's not about the first church, it's about the only church, and the only church that meets with all the roads is in Rome.

People always want to bring up Antioch even though, in truth, it is an invalid argument. It's a complete miss to what the Church stands as being.

Also, you are bad mouthing Peter in order to stand against the Church. And that is just plain ridiculous. It shows how far a person will go to dismiss Roman Catholicism, to say the least of the specific adoration of Peter that is evident in every span of early history.
People knew, just as Catholics know, the extraordinary man Peter was.
 
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Do the Roman Catholics still believe the earth is flat?
Flat-Earth.jpg
 
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Do the Roman Catholics still believe the earth is flat?

The Church was pretty much the first to admit Genesis was not literal back in Darwin's time.

Where were Protestants on that one? Oh yeah, that's right, pretty much in the same place they are today, calling a 4 and a half billion year old planet 6000 years old.
 
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Do the Roman Catholics still believe the earth is flat?

Is that one of those trick questions like "when did you stop beating your wife?" You can do better than that brother rockytopva.The Earth was never flat, not did the sun ever go around the earth despite scripture saying it does. Nor could the whole earth ever be seen despite Daniel's interpretation of the dream (Daniel 4:10-11).

If people of this or that time used language and expressed thoughts that are believed to be incorrect today what does that mean? Only that people make mistakes.

Geocentricism was never true; a circle earth was never true.

God bless, brother rockytopva :)
 
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I am not seeing any keys used to preach to Cornelius, where are they?

You're still thinking there is a physical set of keys somewhere?

God revealed to Peter who Christ was. At Pentecost Peter preached Christ. Later to Gentiles Peter preached the same. The doors to the kingdom are now open.
 
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RC is confused about the keys. First they redefine them and then with that new definition ignore what Peter says. It's a lose lose confusion.

553 Jesus entrusted a specific authority to Peter: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." The "power of the keys" designates authority to govern the house of God, which is the Church. Jesus, the Good Shepherd, confirmed this mandate after his Resurrection: "Feed my sheep." The power to "bind and loose" connotes the authority to absolve sins, to pronounce doctrinal judgements, and to make disciplinary decisions in the Church. Jesus entrusted this authority to the Church through the ministry of the apostles and in particular through the ministry of Peter, the only one to whom he specifically entrusted the keys of the kingdom.

The keys to the kingdom are misinterpreted to mean authority was given to Peter in the form of the mandate "feed my sheep".

But let's go with that redefinition. Peter did that. When Peter neared death, Peter then called the elders of Asia Minor and passed on that same mandate to them.

1 Peter 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight

So, Peter receives this mandate and then passes it on to unnamed Asia Minor elders, not to Rome.

And now back to the proper definition of the keys to the kingdom. Peter was the first to preach to Jew and Gentile, thus exercising the keys and opening the door.

So, Peter opens the door to the kingdom and then passes his authority (not to open the doors with keys any longer (Rev Philadelphia church)) to elders in Asia Minor.

Feed His sheep.
 
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The power of binding/loosing was given to them all.
The keys of the kingdom were given to Peter who used it in his, amongst other examples, his being the first to preach to Jew and Gentile.
At least the RCC doesn't practice OC circumcision today ;)

Peter was the main one chosen to preach the NC Gospel to the Jews, while Paul was sent mainly to the "gentiles", especially after the Jews of the circumcision group rejected him becasue they felt like he was going against the Law of Moses [Acts 13].

Paul and co-workers: How Acts explains Galatians
How Acts explains Galatians

http://www.christianforums.com/t7411038/
Galatians,still stands today against the circumcision.


Galatian 2:8
For the inworking to Peter into Apostleship to the circumcision/peritomhV <4061>, inworks also to me into the nations/gentiles.

Acts 13:46
Being bold yet Paul and Barnabas said "to ye it was necessary first to be spoken the Word of the God.
Since ye are thrusting away it/him and not worthy judging yeselves of the age-abiding life, behold! we are turning into the Nations".

Phil 3:2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of-the circumcision!
3 For we are the circumcision, ones to Spirit of God worship, boasting in Christ Jesus, and not in flesh having confidence.



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At least the RCC doesn't practice OC circumcision today ;)

Peter was the main one chosen to preach the NC Gospel to the Jews, while Paul was sent mainly to the "gentiles", especially after the Jews of the circumcision group rejected him becasue they felt like he was going against the Law of Moses [Acts 13].-snip-.

Interesting point because it was Peter who preached first to Gentiles, opening the door. Had that not happened, Paul wouldn't have happened.

Remember it took direct intervention from God in the form of a vision to get Peter to do what he had been called to do. OPEN THE DOOR to both Jew and Gentile. Paul went through the open door and carried on the work.
 
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The Church was pretty much the first to admit Genesis was not literal back in Darwin's time.

Where were Protestants on that one? Oh yeah, that's right, pretty much in the same place they are today, calling a 4 and a half billion year old planet 6000 years old.

So the RCC continued to insist that the Earth was the center of the universe despite Copernicus, Keppler, Galileo (!), and others--for centuries, but we're supposed to take comfort that it easily dumped Genesis in the late 1800s?

Somehow, that doesn't seem like such a sterling record that it should be boasted about.
 
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