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THIS is why we are to be praying praying praying, FERVENTLY.

That man gave his life in loving self-sacrifice. That's the spirit of God, whether he knew it or not. God will honour him for it, and he'll fall to his knees and cry "Abba, Father!"

Like the girl, God will restore her and wipe the tears from her eyes. And she'll wash His feet with her hair.
 
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brinny said:
That is not Biblical.
God ALREADY provided a "Remedy" to escape from a sure and eternal hell.

The "Remedy" is His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

That is Biblical.
 
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brinny said:
THIS is why we are to be praying praying praying, FERVENTLY.
I pray that both have grabbed hold of God's outstretched hand of grace at that last moment.
 
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God ALREADY provided a "Remedy" to escape from a sure and eternal hell.

The "Remedy" is His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

That is Biblical.

The application of the remedy: First Corinthians 3:15.
 
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I pray that both have done so.

So hell for you could be populated with the heroes and victims of this life. Guess that's where I'll be then, either by choice or default.
 
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The application of the remedy: First Corinthians 3:15.

This is referring to the redeemed, those who have repented and accepted God's grace through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

It is not referring to those who have rejected this grace and remain unrepentant.
 
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Are you trying to make people go cross-eyed? Reading this on your phone is like: llllllllllhhhhhhhh55556bbbb;605"#@?97642...what!

Dear Ren: I will bet on my favorite wife's life that you will not be able to see a difference.

As Teddy Ruxpin would say, somethings not quite right
 
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brinny said:
Hell is what God states it is in His Word.
And not what you think, correct.
I have posted based on what is written in God's Word.

His Word WILL stand. Nothing can destroy it. His Truth in His Word WILL shine forth.

It WILL accomplish what God sends it out to do. We are to SPEAK and PROCLAIM His Word.

It WILL take root and bear fruit, for it is GOD Who waters it.

Father may it be so, in Jesus' name, amen.

 
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This is referring to the redeemed, those who have repented and accepted God's grace through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

It is not referring to those who have rejected this grace and remain unrepentant.

Oh, but there is the context, in verse 11: "For other foundation can no man lay than is laid which is Jesus Christ." Is the meaning not clear?
 
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brinny said:
This is referring to the redeemed, those who have repented and accepted God's grace through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

It is not referring to those who have rejected this grace and remain unrepentant.
Oh, but there is the context, in verse 11: "For other foundation can no man lay than is laid which is Jesus Christ." Is the meaning not clear?
Jesus IS the Foundation. It is on HIM that the repentant find refuge, including refuge from the coming wrath of God for those who remain unrepentant.
 
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Jesus IS the Foundation. It is on HIM that the repentant find refuge, including refuge from the coming wrath of God for those who remain unrepentant.

You missed. Shall I restate? Verse 11 is a sort of double negative, so let me rephrase it for clarity.

"For other foundation can no man lay than is laid which is Jesus Christ."

Is equivalent to:

For all men lay this foundation which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Is it clear now? This applies to ALL, not just the followers of the Christ.
 
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There seems to be this assumption that the concept of hell must be either all or nothing. Either hell is eternal or all people go to heaven. Among some early, Greek speaking Christians there was a third possibility, i.e. that hell is redemptive. This was based on the notion of redemption as epektasis. Gregory of Nyssa would be one who seemed to embrace this idea.

I'm not necessarily promoting one or the other, or the other. But, if we're going to have fifty threads on this, maybe it would help to explore that third possibility as well.
 
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Words are subject to the context(s) in which they are used to convey/communicate a understanding (intended meaning). Context can be a word, group of words, sentences, phrases, paragraphs, pages, chapters, complete manuscripts/books, and on and on. Words can and are used factually and/or symbolically and/or metaphorically as well.
 
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Like the 15 year old rape victim who leaves a suicide note rejecting God for not saving her. Hellbound?

I think of it this way. We have hope for every individual in one hand and the knowledge that is only through faith in Jesus in the other hand. We never let these two hands meet.
 
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brinny said:
Jesus IS the Foundation. It is on HIM that the repentant find refuge, including refuge from the coming wrath of God for those who remain unrepentant.
No.

It means that only Jesus Christ IS the Foundation, and no man can lay another "Foundation".
 
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Oh Brinny.
Okay, how about the atheist war hero who gives his life singlehandedly holding back the enemy to allow time for the women and children to escape to safety.
Is he hellbound?
Yep, according to scripture he is.
 
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