What do Democrats see in Ocasio-Cortez?

[Queller]

Then why do the democrats latch onto the idea that whenever a black person suffers some misfortune that involves a white person, it's assumed to be racism, a hate crime, or some sort of bigotry at the root of it all,.

History?

and how a democrat needs to come to the rescue with legislation that gives preferential treatment to certain people based on the color of their skin?

Care to give an example or two?

 

[Queller]

But has plenty of evidence to back it up.

Then why don't you provide some instead of just making the claim that it exists?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I suggest you get out more then. You brought into a stereotype, and that's rather sad.

How's 28 years of getting out and being directly involved in political and social justice activism (Native American, minorities, LGBTQ)? I was 18 when I first started and I'm 46 years old now. I also grew up surrounded by conservative Republicans, so there's that personal experience I can draw from too.

As I have said before, if I meet a conservative who is genuinely concerned and interested in being involved in social justice and political activism of any kind, then I consider that conservative to be an exception and not the rule. 28 years of dealing with various conservatives has taught me that lesson.

 

[The Barbarian]

Conservative writer, P.J. O'Rourke takes his fellow conservatives to the woodshed:

Since then modern conservatism has been plagued by the wrong friends and the wrong foes. The "Southern Strategy" was bequeathed to the Republican party by Richard Nixon--not a bad friend of conservatism but no friend at all. The Southern Strategy wasn't needed. Southern whites were on--begging the pardon of the Scopes trial jury--an evolutionary course toward becoming Republican.
...
There was no need to (anger) the entire black population of America to get Dixie's electoral votes. And despising cracker trash who have a laundry hamper full of bedsheets with eye-holes cut in them does not make a man a liberal.


Blacks used to poll Republican. They did so right up until Mrs. Roosevelt made some sympathetic noises in 1932. And her husband didn't even deliver on Eleanor's promises.
We Blew It

 

[The Barbarian]

Fact is, conservatives (of whatever stripe) tend to be racists. Liberals of whatever stripe, tend to oppose racism. Whether they were conservative democrats or conservative republicans, or David Duke, doesn't matter.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

The alt right are being brainwashed into victim hood in order to be enslaved to the vast power of the corporatists. That black man or Asian woman or Hispanic immigrant wants to take an alt right job.

More specifically, the older and white GOP tend megatively to see matters in terms of race, while the Dems of all hues and ages and classes tend push civil rights and liberties.

 

[Petros2015]

The 'green deal' is a shibboleth of the far right

That's funny, I thought Shibboleth's were Lovecraftian too...

Psychological Shibboleths

 

[JacobKStarkey]

That's why its use in terms of attacks on AOC makes one laugh.

 

[The Barbarian]

History?

Care to give an example or two?

It's the usual ploy; "Oh you people claim every thing is racism, so there is no racism, and we aren't racists."

It's a very old strategy. Slave owners used to claim that if slaves were freed, then white people would be enslaved.

And when segregation was challenged, racists claimed that segregation was necessary to protect the rights of white people.

And so on. It's what racists do.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

It's what racists do.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

It's the usual ploy; "Oh you people claim every thing is racism, so there is no racism, and we aren't racists."

It's what racists do.

It's been my observation as a veteran activist that some of the WASPs who blatantly oppose any kind of discussion about racism against minorities don't get angry because of the racism and they do not immediately denounce the racism either. But they do get very angry at the person who points out the racism. They don't insist that racism against minorities has to stop or that racism against minorities is morally wrong either. They generally try to shame the person who points out the racism into silence.

They use ad nauseam tactics like accusing the person of race baiting or accusing the person of being a racist themselves or accusing the person of playing the victim or fervently insisting that racism against minorities no longer exists or that racism isn't as prevalent as minorities think it is. There are also the redundant accusations of spreading hate and white guilt, as well as the popular attempt to blame and justify the racism by fervently insisting that minorities did this or that to other minorities in the past.

I've even been accused of being a sore loser when the subject of what happened to NDNs was being discussed with some conservatives. I've also been told that NDNs should be grateful to the white man for forcing them to become civilized and Christians. I often heard black people being called the N word while I was growing up and NDNs were called 'Drunken Injuns' and Mexicans were called wetbacks.

 

[Aldebaran]

History?

How about living in the present? The history of someone's great grandparents is no excuse for focusing one's anger on what color their own skin is, and then projecting it onto white society.

Care to give an example or two?

Affirmative Action is one.
"Hate Crime" legislation is another.

 

[Aldebaran]

Fact is, conservatives (of whatever stripe) tend to be racists. Liberals of whatever stripe, tend to oppose racism. Whether they were conservative democrats or conservative republicans, or David Duke, doesn't matter.

They claim to oppose it while at the same time exploiting it for their own gain.

 

[Aldebaran]

The alt right are being brainwashed into victim hood in order to be enslaved to the vast power of the corporatists.

Now you're just using the "No I'm not, you are!" argument.

That black man or Asian woman or Hispanic immigrant wants to take an alt right job.

What about black women or Asian men? Don't discriminate against them!

More specifically, the older and white GOP tend megatively to see matters in terms of race, while the Dems of all hues and ages and classes tend push civil rights and liberties.

Yet it's always the dems are the ones who exploit race by claiming "RACISM!" when they don't get their way.

 

[JacobKStarkey]

You older white racists in America: get over it. Now.

 

[Aldebaran]

Older than what? 59?

 

[Aldebaran]

I've even been accused of being a sore loser when the subject of what happened to NDNs was being discussed with some conservatives. I've also been told that NDNs should be grateful to the white man for forcing them to become civilized and Christians. I often heard black people being called the N word while I was growing up and NDNs were called 'Drunken Injuns' and Mexicans were called wetbacks.

Have you ever heard of white people called Crackers, honkeys, or the new favorite, "racists" and priviledged? You bring up what you hear of people being called of races other than caucasians as if it's only everyone else that can be subject to racism and discrimination. Talk about wanting "equality" rings rather hollow when it's obvious that "preferential" is what's being sought after.
Blacks, Mexicans, Native Americans, and whatever other race whose advocacy groups gravitate toward the label of "minority" need to understand that all races are equal, and all people are equal, regardless of their history. (Staff Edit)

 

[JacobKStarkey]

If a racist, then get over it.

If not getting over it is a problem, then get called out on it.

 

[Aldebaran]

If a racist, then get over it.

I guess I have nothing to worry about then.

If not getting over it is a problem, then get called out on it.

Since you've already taken it upon yourself to be the judge of who's racist and who isn't:

You older white racists in America: get over it. Now.

....it seems that you have already made yourself the judge, Starkey.

 

[Sparagmos]

I'm still waiting for the democrats and their minions to justify their party's advocacy of slavery from their very foundation.

There is no justification, why would they try to justify it? The racists in the south moved over to the Republican Party years ago. I have never seen a Democrat try and justify or defend the actions of pro-slavery dems. I don’t know why some conservatives make such a big deal about it as if it is a dirty secret.