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Is anyone concerned about the Democrat / Muslim connection?
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=395118588005744The people who are in favor of eroding freedoms of Americans they don't like, are the ones who would tear down what the founders valued. And yes, any American who values his country would be concerned about that.
Muslim Americans: Immigrants and U.S. born see life differently
About 73% of American Muslims say Americans are friendly to Muslims, while about 67% say Trump is unfriendly to Muslims. (which is pretty close to the actual number of Americans who express good will to Muslims)
Despite his criticism of Islam, Jefferson supported the rights of its adherents. Evidence exists that Jefferson had been thinking privately about Muslim inclusion in his new country since 1776. A few months after penning the Declaration of Independence, he returned to Virginia to draft legislation about religion for his native state, writing in his private notes a paraphrase of the English philosopher John Locke’s 1689 “Letter on Toleration”:
“(He) says neither Pagan nor Mahometan (Muslim) nor Jew ought to be excluded from the civil rights of the commonwealth because of his religion.”
The precedents Jefferson copied from Locke echo strongly in his Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which proclaims:
“(O)ur civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions.”
Why Jefferson’s vision of American Islam matters today
No American who is worthy of living in our society favors religious discrimination.
The statute, drafted in 1777, became law in 1786 and inspired the Constitution’s “no religious test” clause and the First Amendment.
I don't think the founders cared much about the freedom, liberty and justice for the slaves since there was a Three-Fifths Compromise in the Constitution.
I also don't think they cared for the treaties that were signed with the tribal nations or for the lives of all the countless Native American men, women and children who were either slaughtered in cold blood for their land or forcibly removed from their land. Let's take a moment and look at what the founding fathers thought of Native Americans.
“The hunter or savage state requires a greater extent of territory to sustain it, than is compatible with the progress and just claims of civilized life, and must yield to it. Nothing is more certain, than, if the Indian tribes do not abandon that state, and become civilized, that they will decline, and become extinct. The hunter state, tho maintain’d by warlike spirits, presents but a feeble resistance to the more dense, compact, and powerful population of civilized man.” - James Monroe
{snip} If you haven't read 1491, by Charles C. Mann, it's a great read and an antidote for the story that North America was sparsely populated by hunter-gatherers at the time of Columbus.
(American Muslims in numerous surveys favor religious tolerance)
Response:
"But look! Someone made a video! So there!"
No, I'm not. I'm honestly more concerned with all the conservative evangelical Christian support of a man like Donald Trump, who wouldn't have all that loyal support if he was still a liberal Democrat.
In response to the above post, I would like to repeat what I posted the other day in another thread.
And the irony is that he now represents the Christian Right and the rest of the Republican Party. This is the same political party who spent eight years morally outraged and pointing their judgmental finger at Bill Clinton for being an adulterer and a womanizer. And yet here these conservatives are rallying behind a man who could rival Bill Clinton in adulterous philandering and other sinful behavior. We're hearing excuses like "Don't judge Trump for his sins!" or "Trump's sins are between him and God!" or "Who among us is without sin?" It's very curious how we never heard these particular excuses or any other excuses when Bill Clinton was still the President. We also didn't hear his sexual deviant behavior toward women being called "LOCKER ROOM BANTER" or "MACHO TALK" either. It's interesting how all that has changed within the Republican Party since Trump came along and started his pandering.
In response, I'll repost something I just posted in a different thread just a couple minutes ago. It seems relevant here.
Religious Right is more of a political stance than a spiritual decision. Those who are Christian and voting for a politician is quite limited in who their choices are, and the choice will be far from perfect when the politician is measured against Christ's standards.
To me, a Christian voting for a politician is like a vegetarian deciding whether to eat chicken or a cheeseburger for dinner when there are no other choices available. Neither one is a vegetable, so he then has to decide which one is healthier. The vegetarian would probably opt for the chicken in this case.
The reason they support him is because he has been supporting the same causes as evangelical Christians.
He opposes abortion,
he supports border security,
he's attempting to balance trade deficiencies with China, etc.
Do you think they're going to support his opponents instead?
Remember, he's a politician, not a religious figurehead.
For the moment; what did he support when he wasn't looking for evangelical votes?
And sadly, we have seen the negative reaction to Trump's conservative Christian voting base from both non-Christians and Christians alike. There have been news articles with titles like: "Evangelical convictions for sell," "the great Evangelical compromise," and "Evangelicals abandon their principles". There is another article that refers to Evangelical Christianity as "Toxic Christianity" and there are many other articles mocking the Christian faith of conservatives because of their support for Trump. I think it's truly sad that all these articles question the Christian faith and mock the Christian witness.
How has President Trump changed white Christians' views of 'morality'?
How could Christians support Trump’s lies? It depends on what you mean by ‘truth.’
I’m an evangelical. The religious right leaders who support Trump don’t speak for me.
Christian layman aren't the only Christians who have been called out for their support of Trump.
Beware a man who adjusts his principles for political purposes. He likely has no principles whatever.
Well, that's easy to answer.
Trump 'asked Marla Maples to abort Tiffany'
Donald Trump's 3 positions on abortion in 3 hours
Donald Trump took 5 different positions on abortion in 3 days
Donald Trump: "I'm Very Pro Choice," Partial Birth Abortion is OK
And that cartoon is another sad example of Christians being called out for their support of Trump.
And as I've said before, it's not Trump's personal life or views that people voted for. It was his policies. It would be nice if people would start realizing that.
They do they just want to spin it into something else.
It was his policies that people voted for.
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