What did Adam look like?

[Jerrysch]

What could you possibly be getting at with this question? Since man wasn't there at the hatching of the first chicken it isn't possible? OR that man was there to witness it on the 6th day and he doesn't report about it? BY the way, how long does it take to lay a fertilized egg and then have it hatch? When could have the first egg hatching event occurred according to The Bible?
My favorite "how can you believe Genesis is literal" question is this: Was Adam created with genitalia and if so why? He had no need for it because Eve wasn't created until later... when God realized that "They" had made an error of ommission and that Adam was lonely.

Science requires a witness to the effects that it seeks to define. If there is no witness it is just a guess,isn't?

 

[Jerrysch]

What could you possibly be getting at with this question? Since man wasn't there at the hatching of the first chicken it isn't possible? OR that man was there to witness it on the 6th day and he doesn't report about it? BY the way, how long does it take to lay a fertilized egg and then have it hatch? When could have the first egg hatching event occurred according to The Bible?
My favorite "how can you believe Genesis is literal" question is this: Was Adam created with genitalia and if so why? He had no need for it because Eve wasn't created until later... when God realized that "They" had made an error of ommission and that Adam was lonely.

I am glad that you are so easliy amused, yet there will come a day when the thought of God and His doings will no longer amuse you, that day will come with dread, and you will forget your "favorites". I pray that you come to a knowledge of Him prior to the event which awaits all of us.

 

[Soul Searcher]

Yes I have His name is YHWH, and I talked to Him just a few minutes ago. Since He was the one who created all of this I think He is a reliable witness to the event. Who is your "witness"?

And I suppose he told you all about creation too.

 

[Soul Searcher]

I am glad that you are so easliy amused, yet there will come a day when the thought of God and His doings will no longer amuse you, that day will come with dread, and you will forget your "favorites". I pray that you come to a knowledge of Him prior to the event which awaits all of us.

I hope that someday you come to a knowledge of him as well. There is no fear in love.

 

[KCDAD]

Yes I have His name is YHWH, and I talked to Him just a few minutes ago. Since He was the one who created all of this I think He is a reliable witness to the event. Who is your "witness"?

When I "talk to someone" I usually mean I conversed with them. It was a two way conversation. I talked they listened, they talked I listened. Meaning was communicated, and meaning was received. Of course in prayer, you literally mean you talked to God. Unfortunately, God doesn't talk back to us. OK, there is anecdotal evidence He does to psychotics, but not to normal healthy people. There is no clear way to understand the communication from God like we can when we are discussing things with other humans. So... with that in mind, how did He express HIS "witness" to the creation events?
Everything requires a witness to the effects that it seeks to define. If there is no witness it is just a guess, isn't it? Yes, Genesis is a first century BC guess.

 

[Mobiosity]

Adam looked like God. He was created in the image of God.

 

[KCDAD]

Adam looked like God. He was created in the image of God.

Unfortunately that is not what "image" means in this context.

 

[Jerrysch]

When I "talk to someone" I usually mean I conversed with them. It was a two way conversation. I talked they listened, they talked I listened. Meaning was communicated, and meaning was received. Of course in prayer, you literally mean you talked to God. Unfortunately, God doesn't talk back to us. OK, there is anecdotal evidence He does to psychotics, but not to normal healthy people. There is no clear way to understand the communication from God like we can when we are discussing things with other humans. So... with that in mind, how did He express HIS "witness" to the creation events?
Everything requires a witness to the effects that it seeks to define. If there is no witness it is just a guess, isn't it? Yes, Genesis is a first century BC guess.

In a document which has come to be known as the Bible.

 

[craig_on_fire]

I think this thread kind of misses the point. The real questions to ask are, 'why were these stories written?' What is the point that the author was trying to make or show. How, in the grand narrative of the story, can we as characters relate to what's going on?

 

[KCDAD]

In a document which has come to be known as the Bible.

And you know that because why? Where does it say that The Bible is God's witness to creation? Where does it say that The Bible is God's testimony?

 

[JuJube]

Science requires a witness to the effects that it seeks to define. If there is no witness it is just a guess,isn't?

Then....evolution is no fact! Simply one big guess. I do not believe either that there were any witnesses around to witness the big event of "something coming from nothing", either. Amen?

 

[ArmyMatt]

I'll say that if you want to know what Adam looked like, the Fathers of the Church say that he probably looked more like an angel than we do today. When God covered him in skins, God didn't kill an animal and use its hide, but rather the more material skin that we have today. Adam's original form was also somewhat like Christ's glorified body, but not exactly being as how Christ is also God, not just man.

It's hard to say what Adam looked like.

 

[Prodical]

the RELATIONSHIP of CHRISTIANITY is FAITH BASED
Faith is to believe without seeing or knowing the outcome, otherwise it wouldnt be faith.

To individuals who too often need proof I see how this is difficult but there are those of us who understand that faith means, without knowing and that I do.
I dont care what Adam looked like I dont care too see the holes in Christs feet, hands and side. I simply have faith that these accounts are true.

Thats my personal relationship. What your is or however it is, is all on you.

 

[KCDAD]

the RELATIONSHIP of CHRISTIANITY is FAITH BASED
Faith is to believe without seeing or knowing the outcome, otherwise it wouldnt be faith.

To individuals who too often need proof I see how this is difficult but there are those of us who understand that faith means, without knowing and that I do.
I dont care what Adam looked like I dont care too see the holes in Christs feet, hands and side. I simply have faith that these accounts are true.

Thats my personal relationship. What your is or however it is, is all on you.

Let me give you another definition of faith that might things in a different light.
Faith is belief put into action. It is the behavior of a person caused by belief in someone or something.

 

[Prodical]

I dont give reverence to the wbsters or any other dictionary's definition of faith so that void.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen.

That's what I operate under therefor I have nothing esle to look at as you say.

 

[KCDAD]

I dont give reverence to the wbsters or any other dictionary's definition of faith so that void.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen.

That's what I operate under therefor I have nothing esle to look at as you say.

And what does Paul mean by "substance" and "evidence" if not the things we do? Faith is the action or behavior that our beliefs lead us to. It means nothing to believe, even the demons believe. Faith is action. By grace we are saved through FAITH, not by works alone lest any man boast... it is not the works alone, but the works motivated and sustained by our belief.

 

[Prodical]

By substance is the actual "what" we hope for or have faith to be the outcome and evidence meaning 'we cant see it' but we believe it'll happen

You're twisting the word believe to equate with your formula but you're still not making anything contrarywise to what I'm saying.

In the scriptures that miniscule portion you give is

'Even the devils in hell believe in God and tremble at his name.'

In reference to the fact that simple belief in GOD won't save you, as belief in GOD is 'common knowledge'

However to believe in Jesus Christ, being born to a virgin, he being the Christ(savior), his death for the cleansing of our sins, and his resurrection as a man, and ultimately his coming again defines our conversion from circumcision to uncircumcision, or conversion from the flesh to the spirit. This is what saves us.

 

[Prodical]

An example to further give an insight on the biblical sense of Faith

The chair you sit in while at your PC. You had/have FAITH that it'll hold you up, so you simply sit in it. You didn't honestly look the chair up and down, left and right, check the screws and if its level did you? Doubtful.

You simply sat in FAITH it would keep you up. That's exercising faith

 

[KCDAD]

By substance is the actual "what" we hope for or have faith to be the outcome and evidence meaning 'we cant see it' but we believe it'll happen

You're twisting the word believe to equate with your formula but you're still not making anything contrarywise to what I'm saying.

In the scriptures that miniscule portion you give is

'Even the devils in hell believe in God and tremble at his name.'

In reference to the fact that simple belief in GOD won't save you, as belief in GOD is 'common knowledge'

However to believe in Jesus Christ, being born to a virgin, he being the Christ(savior), his death for the cleansing of our sins, and his resurrection as a man, and ultimately his coming again defines our conversion from circumcision to uncircumcision, or conversion from the flesh to the spirit. This is what saves us.

An example to further give an insight on the biblical sense of Faith

The chair you sit in while at your PC. You had/have FAITH that it'll hold you up, so you simply sit in it. You didn't honestly look the chair up and down, left and right, check the screws and if its level did you? Doubtful.

You simply sat in FAITH it would keep you up. That's exercising faith

Nice example. I believed it would hold me up and since I had faith in it ability to hold me up and my ability to evaluate its suitability I acted to sit on it. How did I demonstrate I had faith? I acted. I might have believed it was a sturdy chair and it would allow me to sit, but if I didn't have faith in my ability to discriminate between good and bad chairs I might not act on my belief.

Oh, btw, believing gets you nothing. Born to a virgin? NO ONE,who is a scholar of Isaiah believes Jesus was born of a virgin as a result of 7:14. It just doesn't savior predict that. . The word ALMAH means young girl (it is the feminine form of "lad"), not virgin.

How does believing (or not believing) in the crucifixion change the atonement (as you say "cleansing) of the crucifixion? If I pay your fine in court, if I pay everyone's fines in court... whether or not you believe I did it... how does that change the fact that your debt was paid?

 

[Prodical]

whether you believe of the virgin birth or not, eh, that's all on you and your personal walk. I won't try and sway you but continue on with my walk.

Scholars are men of this world. They are not spiritual beings of Christ therefore they simply try and grasp concepts of Christ and hold no form of value in my eyes.

If you believe or not, doesnt alter the occurance, the belief of its occurance signifies that youre giving reverence to his acts and faith enlies in the fact that you trust him to be your savior and his coming again on the last day.