What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[Tone]

Right Hagar is a woman.

"Is" a woman...I thought she was done away with?

 

[ace of hearts]

I am defending Torah, of which the Sinai covenant is a part.

True, but why are you doing this?

 

[Tone]

True, but why are you doing this?

To show that the answer to the OP is not found in any one passage, but in the whole council of Yah.

 

[ace of hearts]

The mosaic law has many additions that were not actual commandments of God. Like for example worshipping on the sabbath. Worshipping was never God’s commandment on the sabbath it was the Pharisees or Levites that instituted that idea. They also defined what work was considered on the sabbath which was not commanded by God. Like when the Pharisees rebuked Jesus’ disciples for picking grain on the sabbath. Jesus did not rebuke His disciples because it was not a commandment of God. There are many more examples of additions men made to the law that were not commandments of God. Obeying God’s commandments are necessary for salvation but obedience to the law is not always necessary. We are obligated to the purpose for which the laws were written not under the letter of the law. Of course the purpose for which the laws were written were to love and honor God and to love others. That has not changed. We are still obligated to do both as Christians but we are not obligated to follow the letter of the law which says things like you must worship on the sabbath or you cannot pick grain on the sabbath. Those were not the purpose that God’s commandments were intended. The sabbath was intended for us to rest in honor of God one day each week. Which day is not important. What is important is that we do honor Him.

Then what value or purpose is the law concerning the Christian? The law isn't flexible in what it says.

 

[ace of hearts]

Mount Sinai is only a part of Torah. Abraham, Sarah, and Isaac are also in Torah.

Those people are mentioned in the Book of the law. They aren't participants in the law. Deut 5:1-3; Gal 3:17-19

 

[Tone]

Those people are mentioned in the Book of the law. They aren't participants in the law. Deut 5:1-3; Gal 3:17-19

Was/is Messiah a participant in the law?

 

[ace of hearts]

The Torah is from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21

Mat 1:1 - Rev 22:21 aren't part of the law.

 

[Tone]

Mount Sinai is only a part of Torah. Abraham, Sarah, and Isaac are also in Torah.

I could have said many many more names.

 

[Tone]

Mat 1:1 - Rev 22:21 aren't part of the law.

I said "Torah".

 

[Tone]

"The word for the former rains, yoreh, comes from the same root as to shoot or cast, or teach! Like an arrow being shot to its target, or information being directly delivered from teacher to pupil, the yoreh rains are sent down to soften up the ground, ready for the first round of planting. In fact, God’s teaching is also compared to the sending of rain in Deuteronomy 32:2, “May my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, like gentle rain upon the tender grass,and like showers upon the herb”.

The latter rains, malkosh, are much harder rains that would have just caused flooding and devastation if they had come earlier on the dusty, dry ground. But these latter Spring rains are essential for the agricultural cycle too; the “Gezer Calendar” (an archeological relic with inscriptions from the time of Solomon [1]) tells us that in January / February time, there was a second round of later planting in ancient Israel’s agricultural year, called the lekesh. The word for these harder, later rains, malkosh, is related to the lekesh: the latter downpours can more easily penetrate the softer ground and bring forth the second harvest in the Spring.

The Spirit of God is often connected with water in the Bible, and God’s provision of water, and some would see the “former rain” and the “latter rain” as outpourings of the Holy Spirit, as vindication of the message of the gospel. Joel 2:23 says,

“Be glad, O children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God, for he has given the early rain for your vindication; he has poured down for you abundant rain, the early and the latter rain, as before.”

The remarkable signs and wonders that followed the first apostles validated their message so that it was widely believed, causing the gospel spread far and wide in a relatively short time. Perhaps as the days get darker and message carried by the true followers of Yeshua seems more and more preposterous, God will send another “latter day downpour” of his Spirit to accompany his servants, vindicating their message. Time will tell. One thing is for certain, rain is repeatedly equated with God’s blessing throughout the Bible:
The Former & Latter Rains in Israel - ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

"The Hebrew word, torah (תורה), is derived from a root that was used in the realm of archery, yareh (ירה). Yareh means to shoot an arrow in order to hit a mark. The mark or target, of course, was the object at which the archer was aiming. Consequently, torah, one of the nouns derived from this root, is, therefore, the arrow aimed at the mark, The target is the truth about God and how one relates to Him. The torah is, therefore, in the strict sense instruction designed to teach us the truth about God. Torah means direction,teaching, instruction,or doctrine."
Torah - Definition

 

[ace of hearts]

Well, what I had in mind way back when I said it is that Yahshua came through the tribe of Judah. He was a Yahudim. So, have you heard of Messianic Jews? If by "Christianity" you mean disciples of the Mashiach, then you follow a Jewish sect. Have you heard the term "Judeo-Christian"?

I fellowshiped and was friends with one for a couple years.
Yes I've heard the term - Judeo-Christian.

 

[ace of hearts]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but is English your native language?

Ja, danke schön

 

[ace of hearts]

You don't have a relationship with Him?

?

 

[ace of hearts]

...very confused...

You're confused that Gal 4 is being talked about?

 

[ace of hearts]

I said "Torah".

My references aren't referred to as Torah.

 

[Tone]

Ja, danke schön

Does that mean "yes, thank you"? I did that without Google...look what I can do!

 

[Tone]

You're confused that Gal 4 is being talked about?

Are you aware that an account recorded in Genesis is the source?

 

[ace of hearts]

What is the relationship between Messiah and the law?

There is none. JN 1:17

 

[Tone]

My references aren't referred to as Torah.

...que?...

 

[ace of hearts]

And when was/is Messiah until?

? The verse isn't talking about the Messiah.

 

[Tone]

John 1:17

I did this to click the blue link...and have a look...