What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[ace of hearts]

I try to keep what applies to me

Good for you. I think that's exactly what Paul and James intend when the say all the law.

 

[ace of hearts]

Both had to because of certain circumstances...

No one was actually forced by the other.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What exactly is the real focus of your previous statement considering you most likely don't have the blue cords on your garments? I think it's nothing more than a legalism to avoid the whole law. When you unplug from the grid and wear tassels on your garments I'll consider more that you keep the law.

That is because you do not understand it so you ridicule it...the blue "cords" were tekhelet tzitzit made from the Chilazon...it has been lost for over 1000 years...

 

[ace of hearts]

Actually the Yeshuas (there are more than one in the Talmud) could not be the Yeshua of Christianity, the timeline for one was 100 BC while the other is 100 AD.
BTW, I quoted Hillel. Paul's teacher was Gamaliel.

So you're promoting Judaism.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

So you're promoting Judaism.

Huh?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yes I read and responded to that post. I don't see any call to the law in this passage.I do see sin mentioned. Sin isn't the law.

Please look at post 880 friend. I said the Holy Spirit directs us to obey God’s commandments which is part of the law. God’s commandments were given to us to define what sin is. God set the standard for morality. This is what the law is based on. The law says do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not lie or steal these are all commandments of God which the Holy Spirit directs us to refrain from such activities. Hence the Holy Spirit directs us to obey part of the law.

 

[ace of hearts]

So tell us what is being "misrepresented"...

You don't want to present with Scripture what you believe. I'm not going to present something for you to argue with. My stance is Romans 11 doesn't promote Christians are Israel. You brought up the idea we are. Defend it with a quote.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Scripture please. The three time the males are require to worship are the annual feasts.

Let me rephrase what I said in reply to your message. In Judaism Jews are required to pray 3 times per day. I didn’t mean that God has required them to pray 3 times per day. I’m not aware of any such commandment.

 

[ace of hearts]

That is because you do not understand it so you ridicule it...the blue "cords" were tekhelet tzitzit made from the Chilazon...it has been lost for over 1000 years...

I didn't ridicule you. I did say you don't keep the law as it pertains to a male Jew or adherent of the covenant made with Israel in the desert after departure from Egypt at Sinai.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You don't want to present with Scripture what you believe. I'm not going to present something for you to argue with. My stance is Romans 11 doesn't promote Christians are Israel. You brought up the idea we are. Defend it with a quote.

Huh? YOU said it is misrepresented...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I didn't ridicule you. I did say you don't keep the law as it pertains to a male Jew or adherent of the covenant made with Israel in the desert after departure from Egypt at Sinai.

No one can fully at the present so your point is moot

 

[ace of hearts]

Please look at post 880 friend. I said the Holy Spirit directs us to obey God’s commandments which is part of the law. God’s commandments were given to us to define what sin is. God set the standard for morality. This is what the law is based on. The law says do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not lie or steal these are all commandments of God which the Holy Spirit directs us to refrain from such activities. Hence the Holy Spirit directs us to obey part of the law.

The following isn't part of what is commonly called the law -

1 JN 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

neither is this -

1 JN 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

 

[ace of hearts]

Huh? YOU said it is misrepresented...

Correct. You can't make your case from the Scripture.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Correct. You can't make your case from the Scripture.

I don't need to...YOU said it was misrepresented...so make YOUR case!

 

[ace of hearts]

No one can fully at the present so your point is moot

On the contrary.

JN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

JN 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus (God) is claim exclusive rights. Obedience to the law has nothing to do with salvation. One can't obtain or maintain salvation by the law. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life. A gift can't be earned.

 

[ace of hearts]

I don't need to...YOU said it was misrepresented...so make YOUR case!

To establish you point you need to back it up with something or it's only personal opinion. All you have so far is a claim based on hot air making lots of noise.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

On the contrary.

JN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

JN 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus (God) is claim exclusive rights. Obedience to the law has nothing to do with salvation. One can't obtain or maintain salvation by the law. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life. A gift can't be earned.

Good .

And who do those who are born again by the will of the Father from heaven follow ?
DO they still follow hasatan,
or DO they follow Jesus ?

 

[ace of hearts]

Good .

And who do those who are born again by the will of the Father from heaven follow ?
DO they still follow hasatan,
or DO they follow Jesus ?

Your contention is one isn't a Christian unless they follow the law given to Israel in the desert. Jeremiah and Jesus disagree with you.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Please look at post 880 friend. I said the Holy Spirit directs us to obey God’s commandments which is part of the law. God’s commandments were given to us to define what sin is. God set the standard for morality. This is what the law is based on. The law says do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not lie or steal these are all commandments of God which the Holy Spirit directs us to refrain from such activities. Hence the Holy Spirit directs us to obey part of the law.

TORAH is not based on morality. That is man's faulty way of thinking or seeing things , and wrongly so.

God did not set the standard for morality. Morality is man's way of thinking, and God's Way is high above man's way. You might recognize that "morality" as used by society/ courts/ countries / religions (including 'Christianity') is kind of 'new age', and not actually Biblical.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Your contention is one isn't a Christian unless they follow the law given to Israel in the desert. Jeremiah and Jesus disagree with you.

No. And non-sequitur. You have no evidence at all for your post.

(I agree with Jesus and Jeremiah entirely, and all of Yahweh's Word)