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Please tell us why the gentiles would be interested in becoming Israel. It was the Jew who wanted to exclude gentiles unless they submitted to the law.
Unless you have those tassels on your clothes you don't keep the law.It says right there
I can agree with that.No I wouldn’t say that. We will all stumble in sin. How we deal with sin is what defines us. If we willingly and continuously sin we are not adhering to the Holy Spirit. If we stumble in sin and repent with remorse that is normal for any Christian.
The two are conflated here often to confuse and promote the law. So one must be specific when making such a statement.Do you understand that I am explaining the difference between the Mosaic law and the commandments of God? I’ve said many times we are only obligated to keep God’s commandments not the Mosaic law.
The Jew certainly separated the two.Evidence? Yes, the NT! Yes the Apostles were adherents of Judaism...THEY WERE JEWS! You can NOT separate Christianity and Judaism as if Christianity came from a vacuum! That is just silly!
Jesus never said or implied one must follow Moses to follow Him.To the pharisees He said: You say you follow Moses...If you follow Moses you would follow me because Moses spoke of me. The gentiles had no such thing unless they were converts to Judaism...
In Judaism only males are required to worship and only three times a year.And yet the law actually requires Jews to worship on the sabbath. Where did God command us to worship on the sabbath? This is just one example. According to the Pharisees it was also against the law to heal on the sabbath. Again this was an addition to God’s commandment that God did not give otherwise Jesus would’ve been guilty of sin for healing on the sabbath. The Mosaic law and the actual commandments of God are not the same thing. The Jews added stipulations to God’s commandments when they wrote the law.
Obvioulsy you haven't read the NT.LOL, literally the entire NT transpires within Israel and the Jewish people...to say otherwise just makes you look ignorant
Graft into what?Are you grafted in or no? Those laws were already in existence before Sinai and you know it.
Evidence? Yes, the NT! Yes the Apostles were adherents of Judaism...THEY WERE JEWS! You can NOT separate Christianity and Judaism as if Christianity came from a vacuum! That is just silly!
Because of the content of this forum I've having difficulty with what you claim to be saying. What are you calling Jewish law? What commandments of God are you talking about? Some of God's commandments are no longer required because one covenant was replaced entirely by a totally different covenant.I just wanted to be clear on my position. If I had said we are obligated to keep the law he might’ve thought I was referring to the Jewish law. I prefer to refer to the commandments God gave us as His commandments in order to distinguish them apart from the Jewish law. And yes I agree that we are not obligated to keep the sabbath but personally I believe we should set aside at least one day a week to honor God.
Graft into what?
No I don't agree that Christianity is or was a sect (part) of Judaism. You try very hard to project that on me for ridicule.So you agree with the fact that it was a sect WITHIN Judaism but in the same breath you claim it was foreign to it? LOL
In Judaism only males are required to worship and only three times a year.
Where?The Holy Spirit directs us to obey God’s commandments which is part of the law.
Because of the content of this forum I've having difficulty with what you claim to be saying. What are you calling Jewish law? What commandments of God are you talking about? Some of God's commandments are no longer required because one covenant was replaced entirely by a totally different covenant.
That's entirely creditable prior to Jesus.Because they wanted to follow the God of Israel
Where?
“What is hateful to you do not do to your neighbor. This is the whole Torah [Law]; all the rest is commentary.”
Hillel, Talmud Shabbat 31a
I understand that. The passage is being misrepresented to say something it doesn't.He’s referring to Romans 11:17-26
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