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That does kind of depend on the values etc
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Really? And who gets to make that judgement? Who decides what values are valid?
Parents have a right to teach their values to their children. I may not agree with them but they have that right.
 
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Indeed. Can you recall anyone in over 800 posts actually taking to task those gutter dwellers who threatened to kill those guys? Hey, no. They were just asking for it.
Who threatened to kill somebody?
 
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Please check post #3. There is a reference there.

Of course there are no death threats on CF. We are far too civilised (and policed).
There is nothing in post number 3 about death threats
 
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Really? And who gets to make that judgement? Who decides what values are valid?
Parents have a right to teach their values to their children. I may not agree with them but they have that right.
You teach them to steal and see who judges
those values
 
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That is remarkably similar to what used to be said about victims of rape being out after dark. It is almost as if they were not as free as the rest of society.
No, that’s not similar at all
 
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True. But some would see it as a value.
Point is some values conflict with society,
but that's so obvious it was pointless of me
to say it. :(
There are a lot of bad parents and there is a thin line between when to intervene and parents’ rights
 
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Bradskii

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Who threatened to kill somebody?
Maybe you missed the original video. The Youtube comments would have left you in no doubt about what type of reactions you get when you are accused of paedophilia.
 
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Maybe you missed the original video. The Youtube comments would have left you in no doubt about what type of reactions you get when you are accused of paedophilia.

Who's accusung who of being a pedo? The video to the zbots? I didn't see it but I can imagine. So what?
 
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Bradskii

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Who's accusung who of being a pedo? I didn't see it but I can imagine. So what?
I can't imagine that any reasonable person could believe that it's perfectly acceptable to lie about people being paedophiles and then go to the trouble of editing a video to try and convince people that they have sexually assaulted young children.

So I have no idea at all what your 'So what?' can possible mean.
 
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True. But some would see it as a value.
Point is some values conflict with society,
but that's so obvious it was pointless of me
to say it. :(
I'm pretty sure he meant what's actually considered values by society as a whole.
 
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I can't imagine that any reasonable person could believe that it's perfectly acceptable to lie about people being paedophiles and then go to the trouble of editing a video to try and convince people that they have sexually assaulted young children.
Perhaps they too are playing the satire card.
 
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I thought the "satire" was that...they really do want your kids! Haha funny paody and fun making, but. it's for real isn't it?
They really do want your kids, claiming that they can convert them into better people.
 
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Perhaps they too are playing the satire card.
Well, some people don't get satire. Maybe I need to explain that it's used in an attempt to make someone's position look a little ridiculous. Often by means of humour. And often it's a little subtle, so that whoever it's aimed at often misses the subtext.

Telling anyone who will listen that some innocent people have sexually assaulted children, telling anyone who will listen that you think that they are scum, they deserve to die and look forward to an opportunity to kill them...well, that's not being satirical.

I can't believe I had to explain that, but I hope it's cleared it up for you.
 
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Well, some people don't get satire.
Yep.
Maybe I need to explain that it's used in an attempt to make someone's position look a little ridiculous. Often by means of humour. And often it's a little subtle, so that whoever it's aimed at often misses the subtext.

Telling anyone who will listen that some innocent people have sexually assaulted children, telling anyone who will listen that you think that they are scum, they deserve to die and look forward to an opportunity to kill them...well, that's not being satirical.

I can't believe I had to explain that, but I hope it's cleared it up for you.
Anyone can claim satire, parody, tongue-in-cheek et al.
 
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