What are your thoughts on this?

[Astrid]

To cite a couple of egregious books is to make
the stopped clock argument.

Which argument is yet another discursion from that
It's the religious right, same people as the would-be evolution banners who are comparably ignorant.

Don't know anything about it but they do know
it's wrong bad unbiblical and they dont Iike it.

Are you denying that?

There it is. @rjs330
It doesnt even say there are such books ,
just that if there are it's meaningless.

If there are egregious books I dont
know the names, what is in them or
what is wrong

You did not ask me to clarify, you falsely claimed I had
admitted something.
I made the truthful statement that I'd admitted to
nothing.

However comfortable you may be just saying
things, I'm not, and I won't be prodded into doing it.


How you've generated such powerful waves of
confusion around your own mistakes is a marvel of
Nature.

So, first you mistake my pointing out a logical fallacy
for a statement that egregious books exist.

Second you claim that in doing so I am reluctantly
( like it's been beaten out if me) confess to somethung
I don't know and did not say.

So inept at your own language!
At a quick assessment for your IEP
(individual education plan) I'd say you
need to put in a lot ot time on
vocabulary develpment and
reading comprehension.


A review of logical fallacies would be in order
when you are ready for it.

But in view of a consistent string of failures,
you may not understand this post either

 

[ozso]

But that is what's being said. Comments like that are bigoted because they are used in reference to all gay people. Gay people in general. There was a comment a few days ago that compared homosexuality to inappropriate behavior with animals for heaven's sake.

How is it possible to have a reasonable conversation about genuine concerns when comments like this are so common? People who use terms like that are excluding themselves from any possibility of a constructive debate. It's simply not possible to talk to someone who repeats these comments like a mantra, post after post after post.

Being on record enmasse chanting the mantra "we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children!" solidifies that view.
Not necessarily that every LGBT are "minor attracted adults" but that it's paving the road for inclusionism and acceptance. "LGBTQQIP2SAA+" can be viewed pretty much as anything and everything is included. Many don't consider it impossible for "minor attracted adults" to be included in the vast spectrum, under that huge umbrella. There is increasing evidence that it's headed in that direction, rather than away from it.

 

[Astrid]

Being on record enmasse chanting the mantra "we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children!" solidifies that view.
Not necessarily that every LGBT are "minor attracted adults" but that it's paving the road for inclusionism and acceptance. "LGBTQQIP2SAA+" can be viewed pretty much as anything and everything is included. Many don't consider it impossible for "minor attracted adults" to be included in the vast spectrum, under that huge umbrella. There is increasing evidence that it's headed in that direction, rather than away from it.

Logically then if some group of
Christians chants something it
must represent the thinking of all
Christians.

What you choose to think is road paving the including
of everything and anything is just what you choose
And appears to be an example of the bigotry
that the post you are ( not) answering speaks of.

As a lesbian myself I have a certain sympathy for many of
those whose way of relating to others is not
Biblical / conventional.

As for the child molesters you speak of, though,
the most severe penalties are hardly enough for
anyone committing such atrocities.

 

[AV1611VET]

Logically then if some group of
Christians chants something it
must represent the thinking of all
Christians.

Then if you're saying that LGBT mantra is only being chanted by a subgroup of the organization, then why isn't the rest of the group chastising them for it?

We Christians chastise one another for our practices (ex., speaking on tongues vs not speaking in tongues).

Let's see the rest of the LGBT organization chastise those who are quoting this mantra; or quit complaining we're attributing it to the whole group.

Their silence speaks volumes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Being on record enmasse chanting the mantra "we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children!" solidifies that view.

Yes, and if it's just a small faction doing that, then why isn't the larger group chastising them for it?

And if they're doing it just to ruffle our feathers, again, why isn't the larger group chastising them for it?

 

[BPPLEE]

Yes, and if it's just a small faction doing that, then why isn't the larger group chastising them for it?

And if they're doing it just to ruffle our feathers, again, why isn't the larger group chastising them for it?

Instead of chastising they defend the indefensible

 

[AV1611VET]

Instead of chastising they defend the indefensible.

Well I haven't seen the larger group defend these Homos per se.

But I'll admit, I don't watch the news anymore.

So maybe they are, but they're doing it behind closed doors.

Or maybe they're doing it openly.

I don't know.

I half expect someone to reply to my point with a link to where they have been chastising them.

We'll see.

 

[BPPLEE]

Well I haven't seen the larger group defend these Homos per se.

But I'll admit, I don't watch the news anymore.

So maybe they are, but they're doing it behind closed doors.

Or maybe they're doing it openly.

I don't know.

I half expect someone to reply to my point with a link to where they have been chastising them.

We'll see.

I’m just talking about on the forums

 

[AV1611VET]

I’m just talking about on the forums.

Oh, okay.

It would be interesting then, if this larger faction of LGBTers would indeed chastise these chanters, how their defenders here on CF would take it.

Would they change their minds and chastise them as well? or would they stand their ground and side with the chanters?

Equally interesting is what would happen if the chanters themselves apologized to the larger faction for stirring up trouble.

 

[BPPLEE]

Oh, okay.

It would be interesting then, if this larger faction of LGBTers would indeed chastise these chanters, how their defenders here on CF would take it.

Would they change their minds and chastise them as well? or would they stand their ground and side with the chanters?

Equally interesting is what would happen if the chanters themselves apologized to the larger faction for stirring up trouble.

There seem to be some, not all who feel that any and all manner of perversion should be flaunted and that we are obligated not only to accept it but to celebrate it and if we don’t then we’re called bigots

 

[AV1611VET]

There seem to be some, not all who feel that any and all manner of perversion should be flaunted and that we are obligated not only to accept it but to celebrate it and if we don’t then we’re called bigots

As long as it's SOME and not ALL.

But I'm wondering what the ALL thinks of what their SOME are doing?

 

[Tinker Grey]

There seem to be some, not all who feel that any and all manner of perversion should be flaunted and that we are obligated not only to accept it but to celebrate it and if we don’t then we’re called bigots

Neither being gay nor being trans is a perversion. Nobody wants you to celebrate it; they want you to leave them alone and stop passing laws designed to hurt them.

That's it; that's the agenda.

Oh, and to have a cessation of the spreading of lies about them.

 

[AV1611VET]

Neither being gay nor being trans is a perversion.

So says your papers.

Nobody wants you to celebrate it;

Ya -- let them do it themselves down our streets?

... they want you to leave them alone ...

So they can come down our streets en masse; and show up on our calendars?

... and stop passing laws designed to hurt them.

So they can hurt us first?

That's it; that's the agenda.

They've stated their agenda, and you're wrong.

Oh, and to have a cessation of the spreading of lies about them.

No one likes to be lied about.

And if anyone is, they are violating one of the Ten Commandments.

 

[rjs330]

There it is. @rjs330
It doesnt even say there are such books ,
just that if there are it's meaningless.

If there are egregious books I dont
know the names, what is in them or
what is wrong

You did not ask me to clarify, you falsely claimed I had
admitted something.
I made the truthful statement that I'd admitted to
nothing.

However comfortable you may be just saying
things, I'm not, and I won't be prodded into doing it.


How you've generated such powerful waves of
confusion around your own mistakes is a marvel of
Nature.

So, first you mistake my pointing out a logical fallacy
for a statement that egregious books exist.

Second you claim that in doing so I am reluctantly
( like it's been beaten out if me) confess to somethung
I don't know and did not say.

So inept at your own language!
At a quick assessment for your IEP
(individual education plan) I'd say you
need to put in a lot ot time on
vocabulary develpment and
reading comprehension.


A review of logical fallacies would be in order
when you are ready for it.

But in view of a consistent string of failures,
you may not understand this post either

You said "to cite a couple of egregious books" is to say there are a couple of egregious books. That's it. You are either not understanding how the language works, which may be the case since English isn't your primary language, or you are obfuscating like mad not wanting to admit what you said.

Perhaps we should just chalk it up to not understanding how the language works and move on. Which works just fine with me. I can let that go. But if you continue to claim you didn't say what you said is quite ridiculous.

It's no different than saying "to cite a couple of racist white people" and then claim you didn't admit there were a couple of racist white people is astounding. Unless you just want to say you misspoke due to English being a second language.

I think I'm just going to chalk it up to that since you don't even know what people are talking about when it comes to the books.

 

[Astrid]

Neither being gay nor being trans is a perversion. Nobody wants you to celebrate it; they want you to leave them alone and stop passing laws designed to hurt them.

That's it; that's the agenda.

Oh, and to have a cessation of the spreading of lies about them.

As has been seen and commented on so many times,
the more they condemn " perversion" the more we
know they are wrestling with their own nature and
conscience.

My girlfriend and I dont out in a public display of
affection. Asians don't do public shows anyway.

All I ask is to be ignored.

If christian and other bigots had not treated
those such as I so bafpdly for so long, there'd be
no pushback.

Now it's the end of the world as they know it- teotwatki-
because their fellow humans are tired of the vicious
harassment and persecution. And lies.

Self righteous liars at that

 

[rjs330]

Logically then if some group of
Christians chants something it
must represent the thinking of all
Christians.

No because we generally will state it's wrong to chant something if it's a bad thing to chant. The problem is that generally the LGBT folks will defend the chanting rather than calling it out as wrong. There are a few who do like the gays against groomers or Dave Rubin. But they are usually rejected by the other members of the LGBT community at large. The majority defend the chants and minority call it out as wrong.

Whereas if Christians were to do something like that the majority would be calling it out as wrong.

 

[Astrid]

You said "to cite a couple of egregious books" is to say there are a couple of egregious books. That's it. You are either not understanding how the language works, which may be the case since English isn't your primary language, or you are obfuscating like mad not wanting to admit what you said.

Perhaps we should just chalk it up to not understanding how the language works and move on. Which works just fine with me. I can let that go. But if you continue to claim you didn't say what you said is quite ridiculous.

It's no different than saying "to cite a couple of racist white people" and then claim you didn't admit there were a couple of racist white people is astounding. Unless you just want to say you misspoke due to English being a second language.

I think I'm just going to chalk it up to that since you don't even know what people are talking about when it comes to the books.

Well you are a specimen.
I never denied what I said.

Nowhere will you find that.

You made it up.

Hard to get more ridiculous than that.

But you succeeded!

See how much easier if you'd said "Agree " instead
of " admit"? Or changed it when I objected?

And understood your own language well enough to
grasp the rather important didtinction?

Talk about ridiculous !

But you just keep going!

 

[AV1611VET]

As has been seen and commented on so many times, the more they condemn "perversion" the more we know they are wrestling with their own nature and conscience.

Speaking of pervesions, what's on science's list next to justify? beastiality?

It'll just be a matter of time, won't it, until they "discover" a gene that predisposes someone to have intimacy with a member of his [Hominidae] family?

 

[rjs330]

As has been seen and commented on so many times,
the more they condemn " perversion" the more we
know they are wrestling with their own nature and
conscience.

My girlfriend and I dont out in a public display of
affection. Asians don't do public shows anyway.

All I ask is to be ignored.

If christian and other bigots had not treated
those such as I so bafpdly for so long, there'd be
no pushback.

Now it's the end of the world as they know it- teotwatki-
because their fellow humans are tired of the vicious
harassment and persecution. And lies.

Self righteous liars at that

You know what, if you want to be ignored don't go marching in the streets telling everyone you're coming after your children or singing songs that state you're trying to convert people's children.

If you want to be ignored don't be trying to use the educational system, media, books and drag queens to indoctrinate children.

It's pretty hard to ignore someone who slaps you in the face and then tells you to ignore it and you are a bigot if you don't.

It's your side that started this. We were doing just fine until then. It's was your side that decided that was so offended that Christians believed homosexuality was a sin and said so.

What do you care? You don't believe in it anyway. Why try to convert their children? I'm not saying you are personally. It sounds like you are not interested in participating in that kind of stuff since you personally want to be ignored.

Just curious, since you live in Hong Kong, are you viciously harassed and persecuted there?

 

[Astrid]

No because we generally will state it's wrong to chant something if it's a bad thing to chant. The problem is that generally the LGBT folks will defend the chanting rather than calling it out as wrong. There are a few who do like the gays against groomers or Dave Rubin. But they are usually rejected by the other members of the LGBT community at large. The majority defend the chants and minority call it out as wrong.

Whereas if Christians were to do something like that the majority would be calling it out as wrong.

Ask me ! I'm lesbian. Ask what I see as wrong.
You can even ask why.
Start with rapists and child molestors.
You think I or my partner have so morality?
Donr be afraid. Say what's in your heart.

What you are doing so far though is just
a quacks -like' -a- duck re bigotry wrapped in a
100 per ceng unevidenced claim that christians are
morally superiod.